Yeah, it would be nice if you didn't have to jump through so many hoops to offer feedback. They really should offer a mechanism for just that. If there is one, I haven't found it yet.

On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Yes, it's part of the free Apple xcode developer tools. Normally it is installed in Developer/Applications/Utilities/Accessibility Tools/ Accessibility Verifier.app. I'd be happy to share with the Open Office folks but I haven't had time to go through the registration process to get permission to send them bugs. Mostly I need to take the time to wade through the introduction which lays out what you are signing up for when you get an account. I'm not really interested in developing Open Office but I would like to point out this flaw.

CB

Scott Howell wrote:
Chris, is that tool a part of the developer suite? Also, you might want to send those results to the Open Office folks, they probably would find it interesting.
On Oct 7, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

On taking a closer look with the Apple Accessibility Verifier (part of their free developer tools) I opened Open Office Writer with a blank document and inserted a single empty 4x8 table. In this state the verifier found 73 warnings and 59 errors. Included in this list were several attributes which were missing related to the Table. These include

AXRows
AXSelectedColumns
AXHeader
AXColumns
AXVisibleRows
AXSelectedRows
AXVisibleColumns

So if these are missing and should be there then it's no wonder VO can't work with the table.

CB

Chris Blouch wrote:
One area I was having trouble with hasn't improved. If I hit Apple-F12 to insert a new table into a Writer document, I can navigate around the document and then enter an object announced as "Table 1 on Page 1 Table". But if I VO shift down to interact with the table nothing happens. I can tab from cell to cell and edit the content of the cells but I have no way of knowing what cell, column or row I'm in other than by the context of the cells I've already put stuff into. VO-C just beeps instead of reading the column. VO-shift-T just beeps instead of giving the column and row number. VO-shift-H just beeps instead of reading the column header. VO-R just beeps instead of reading the row.

I was hoping I could interact with the table to navigate around and then interact with a cell to make changes. Right now tables are pretty much unusable with VO. Anyone else figured out how to work with tables in Open Office Writer documents?

CB

Fonzie wrote:
Hey everyone, for those who are interested.

Open Office RC 4 is out today.

I haven't downloaded it to check out the accessibility yet, but just thought I would let those know who were keeping track of it.

Take care,

Best

Fonzie




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