Hi,
Most of the OS is not geting a big overhull, because the new OS
focuses on performance. That aside, look at what Apple brought out
with the IPod, and all the applications that Apple has coded, like
ITunes, to work with Voiceover. If that isn't a big update, then I
don't know what is. And Fonzey, 10.5.5 had mentioned changes to the
speech dictionary.
Anne, we also got ICal if I read things correctly.
Thanks for listening,
Alex,
On 3-Nov-08, at 11:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Matt,
Leopard brought significant changes to VoiceOver. Apart from Braille
support, we got Numpad Commander, Hotspots, navigation using
headings either of the same level or any level, the ability to read
a whole Webpage at one go, all kinds of text navigation commands
including finding text of the same colour or with the same
attributes, keyboard practice giving definitions of VO commands, VO-
H-H giving a list of available commands, additional voice
configuration options, and I'm sure that's not all. Have you ever
read through the full list of VO commands and explored VoiceOver
Utility thoroughly? It's definitely worth the effort to improve your
VO experience.
Cheers,
Anne
On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Mueller, Matt wrote:
I would have to agree that VoiceOver certainly isn't going to be
removed. One thing I do find peculiar, however, is the update path
and outlook for VoiceOver. You must excuse me (and correct me as
well) if I am mistaken in my facts or interpretation. I am still
quite new to VoiceOver and the Mac. Version changes of Windows
screen readers often bring with them a fair number of added
features--ways of making parts of the GUI easier and more efficient
to navigate and use. I don't see that with VoiceOver. Even with
my admittedly limited use of Tiger and now Leopard I don't see many
significant changes. Granted Braille support is very significant
and the additional audio cues are an improvement as well. Mostly
the updates seem minor and not even all that frequent. The last I
remember was 10.5.2 restoring list view on the Dock. So are updates
to VoiceOver really all that unique? Is it reasonable to expect
more frequent updates and improvements just because it is part of
the OS, and can a major update always be expected when the next OS
is released, say 10.6? I suppose I see improvements in such areas
being a function not of OS updates but simply Apple's commitment to
accessibility and their user base. I guess my ultimate question as
someone who is beginning to invest time and money in the Mac
platform is simply this: What are the chances of stagnation given
Apple's primary and sole focus is not providing access technology?
Any thoughts on this are welcome.
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Subject: Re: Mac OSX 10.5.6 and OSX Snow Leopard
what bought up the no voiceover topic? I might have missed something
On Nov 3, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Chris, please, Apple really would never shoot themselves in the foot
in this way. Hell I can't imagine any company spending that much
money on R&D to then just toss it in the trash. The other person who
responded is correct in it would be a P R nightmare as well.
VoiceOver is here to stay and I assure you that Apple has no plans
to stop development anytime soon.
On Nov 3, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I hope to God that Voiceover will be a part of the new OS. If not,
then I will unfortunately lose all respect for Apple.
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Subject: Mac OSX 10.5.6 and OSX Snow Leopard
Hi all, ho are you doing?
While looking up the mentioned subject line, I thought I would
provide a link to some of hte seed notes for OSX 10.5.6. Here it
is. It is interesting, but I yet do not see anything involving
VoiceOver. To be fair, people are not usually testing VoiceOver,
and with hte exception of 10.5.3, it may or may not be public at
it's release. You should find them interesting all the same.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mac-OS-X-10-5-6-9G21-Seed-Notes-Out-96638.shtml
On 10.6 Snow Leopard, I have found only the following.
Currently, from what I can see, the finder window is now
completely written in coco. The entire OS is supposed to be
written in coco, so that is always good to hear. we really won't
know it's entirety until it is actually released, but little tid
bits or nice here and there.
Take care all.
Fonzie
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