Esther covered the scroll in her detailed offering but I noticed he did see the one play list so I don't think scroll was the issue.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Dour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue. One more thought for you: I have noticed very strange behavior of those lists under the tabs in the iPod pane. A sighted user sees it as a small scrollable list. We see it as a table, and interact with it using VOiceover. It seems that Voiceover is able to move through the list, without the list visually scrolling at the same time. When this happens, you may actually miss content, as it doesn't update properly in the table. This may be a bug in the Mac version of iTunes. The bug shows itself off the most when you see check boxes you swear you checked, but the actual action activated a totally different selection you didn't want to use. This has lead to my iPod sometimes syncing playlists I did not intend on syncing. The solution is to scroll up and down the list by using the scroll command, maybe 6 presses at a time down, then move Voiceover down after finishing the scroll action. This seems to keep the visual on screen, and Voiceover is able to properly interact with the desired objects in the list without missing items or activating the wrong items when activated with VO-Space. Again, try it out and let us know. Ryan On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > OK, guys. I sent this to the guy who is now in charge of this case, > from Apple. Yall look this over. I'd like a 2nd opinion, but, I > think? we may? be getting to the bottom a this, finally! > > I'm obviously not including this guy's personal e-mail address he > gave me, or he'd have my head, but I've at least! below pasted > exactly what I wrote him. Tell me if yall think my theory's correct. > > > > Hey Nate, it's Chris Gilland. I spoke with you regarding the weird > ITunes > issue with syncing playlists. > > I went to the site you gave me on how to properly remove ITunes, and > did it. > I reinstalled from the itunes dmg image, then recreated a playlist > called > "IPod." I then plugged in the IPod. Well, something really odd > happened. > Disc mode got enabled under the summary tab. Well, whatever... I > disabled > that, and went under the music tab. Guess what! I now see all the > playlists including "IPod." Is that not something else? I musta not > removed it correctly at all the first time, as that did the trick. > Good > golly Miss Molly though. Hey, that'sw a good song! O wait... > Anyway, I > r'r'r'really! wonder why it did this. I'm scared at this point to > plug > another Nano in. OK, so yeah, like, check it out. Here's my theory. > > I wonder if... > > Could it be, that just as you can only sync one library at a time > with an > IPod, I wonder if it goes the same way with auto syncing libraries. > > In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can > sync > one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync > unlimited > IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to > manually > manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have > one > IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through > manual mode. > Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere. I cannot > really > pinpoint down where, but apparently, that must be the case. Tell ya > what: > > Can you do me a favor? Try grabbing two Nano 8 gigs if possible, > and sync > one of 'em automatically. Then go on that first one and sinc it in > the > music tab with just one manually created playlist. Now go plug the > second > IPod in. Try then to sync it with another manually created playlist > sepret > from the one you used for the first IPod. Tell me if that works. > If it > does, then that proves my theory wrong. If it disappears, then > reinstall > ITunes, and you'll be fine. I just wanna have another person try > testing my > theory and see if then! they can regenerate this issue. I'll betcha > almost > anything that my theory's right, but I dono for sure, and, I may be > a teer3 > tech agent for another company, but even teer3 reps are known to make > booboos at times. LOL! Anyway, let me know please what that does, > or if > you think my theory even remotely! may be right. > > Thank you ever so much for all of your help tonight. I thoroughly > enjoyed > talking with you. > > Chris > >
