I've changed the subject line to reflect more rellavence.
Ryan, what is! the scroll command? How does one do it?
Chris.
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From: "Ryan Dour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Nano issue.
One more thought for you:
I have noticed very strange behavior of those lists under the tabs in the
iPod pane. A sighted user sees it as a small scrollable list. We see it
as a table, and interact with it using VOiceover. It seems that Voiceover
is able to move through the list, without the list visually scrolling at
the same time. When this happens, you may actually miss content, as it
doesn't update properly in the table. This may be a bug in the Mac
version of iTunes. The bug shows itself off the most when you see check
boxes you swear you checked, but the actual action activated a totally
different selection you didn't want to use. This has lead to my iPod
sometimes syncing playlists I did not intend on syncing. The solution is
to scroll up and down the list by using the scroll command, maybe 6
presses at a time down, then move Voiceover down after finishing the
scroll action. This seems to keep the visual on screen, and Voiceover is
able to properly interact with the desired objects in the list without
missing items or activating the wrong items when activated with VO-Space.
Again, try it out and let us know.
Ryan
On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
OK, guys. I sent this to the guy who is now in charge of this case,
from Apple. Yall look this over. I'd like a 2nd opinion, but, I think?
we may? be getting to the bottom a this, finally!
I'm obviously not including this guy's personal e-mail address he gave
me, or he'd have my head, but I've at least! below pasted exactly what I
wrote him. Tell me if yall think my theory's correct.
Hey Nate, it's Chris Gilland. I spoke with you regarding the weird
ITunes
issue with syncing playlists.
I went to the site you gave me on how to properly remove ITunes, and did
it.
I reinstalled from the itunes dmg image, then recreated a playlist
called
"IPod." I then plugged in the IPod. Well, something really odd
happened.
Disc mode got enabled under the summary tab. Well, whatever... I
disabled
that, and went under the music tab. Guess what! I now see all the
playlists including "IPod." Is that not something else? I musta not
removed it correctly at all the first time, as that did the trick. Good
golly Miss Molly though. Hey, that'sw a good song! O wait... Anyway,
I
r'r'r'really! wonder why it did this. I'm scared at this point to plug
another Nano in. OK, so yeah, like, check it out. Here's my theory.
I wonder if...
Could it be, that just as you can only sync one library at a time with
an
IPod, I wonder if it goes the same way with auto syncing libraries.
In other words, I wonder if it is possible that perhaps you only can
sync
one IPod automatically per computer. Yeah, I know you can sync
unlimited
IPods with one library, but I wonder if they all have to be set to
manually
manage, then you have! to drag/drop. I'm thinking you only can have one
IPod set to auto sync. All the others *must!* be done through manual
mode.
Otherwise it seems to corrupt your preferences somewhere. I cannot
really
pinpoint down where, but apparently, that must be the case. Tell ya
what:
Can you do me a favor? Try grabbing two Nano 8 gigs if possible, and
sync
one of 'em automatically. Then go on that first one and sinc it in the
music tab with just one manually created playlist. Now go plug the
second
IPod in. Try then to sync it with another manually created playlist
sepret
from the one you used for the first IPod. Tell me if that works. If it
does, then that proves my theory wrong. If it disappears, then
reinstall
ITunes, and you'll be fine. I just wanna have another person try
testing my
theory and see if then! they can regenerate this issue. I'll betcha
almost
anything that my theory's right, but I dono for sure, and, I may be a
teer3
tech agent for another company, but even teer3 reps are known to make
booboos at times. LOL! Anyway, let me know please what that does, or
if
you think my theory even remotely! may be right.
Thank you ever so much for all of your help tonight. I thoroughly
enjoyed
talking with you.
Chris
