Interesting. For me the scrub action on the Nano is scaled way up from my classic. Sometimes I go way too far because I'm expecting it to go as fast as the classic did, and it zips much faster. Also holding the forward and back buttons to scan goes a lot faster than the classic.

On Nov 5, 2008, at 23:23, Esther wrote:

Hi Jacob,

Thanks for the feedback. I should have said that the scroll-wheel action in scrubbing is the only physical feature that I'd want to change -- I'd also like to switch off the automatic switch to Cover Flow mode when you tilt the Nano. The only way I can deal with this at present is to lock my Nano after choosing settings so I don't suddenly hear "Cover Flow" every time it tilts. This is far from ideal, but I'm hoping for a software fix since, as you say, this is far from a unique reaction.

It may be that the scroll-wheel scrubbing action can also be changed in a software release, because I feel as though the movement of each of my "scrubs" were scaled down by at least a factor of 3 or 4 -- maybe this is the relative size of the wheel. As far as I can tell, on the 1G and 2G Nanos, one scrub around the scroll wheel was like what you'd experience with one scrub around a larger size iPod. On the 4G Nano, it's as though the action were scaled way down, and scrubbing through a TV show or video (an hour in length) feels close to the way I could scrub through 5 hours of audiobook on a 1G or 2G Nano. It was great for the audiobooks, because you could scroll really fast with the smaller wheel if you wanted to, and was just more adjustable. Of course, those iPods didn't support video, so maybe everything has been reset for TV shows and movies.

I'd also like to get improved information on battery (more than the status of "charging", "charged" and "low battery") -- even if only when connected up to iTunes. Again, this is not a serious concern.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:

Hi
I haven't had any previous generation Nanos, so I can't comment on how the scrolling compares. However, compared to my classic, the Nano's wheel seems to scroll faster. It doesn't actually seem to be more sensitive, it seems to be for the simple reason that it is smaller and therefore has to scroll more than the classic does around a single rotation. I don't really have an issue overscrolling honestly, I use my Nano one-handed, in my case my right hand with the thumb using the wheel. I usually prefer to start at around the nine o'clock position and scroll clockwise rather than the three o'clock position, and I don't usually remove my thumb from the wheel between rotations (i.e. I usually scroll continuously until I find what I want rather than going a certain distance around the wheel then lifting my thumb up and starting over). This is also how I operated my classic. Sometimes though if you lift your finger up you move it along the wheel just a bit without realizing it, and this is where the size of the clickwheel can work against you, as you have to cover less distance to get the same amount of scrolling as you would on a Classic for example. The smaller click wheel isn't really an issue, but it might take a bit of getting used to at first. I actually like how fast I can scroll now. Personally, I only find one thing about the Nano annoying, and that is the accelerometer. I love the shake to shuffle, but I really wish I could turn off the automatic cover- flow (i.e. when you turn the Nano sideways it goes into cover flow view). This wouldn't really be a big problem except that when in cover flow the regular controls don't work. This makes changing the volume while the Nano is in my pocket a bit of a pain. If I could leave the rest of the accelerometer's features on but just turn off that one thing it'd be perfect. Unfortunately I can't turn this feature off at all, the only one I can turn off is the shake to shuffle which I happen to really enjoy playing with. This is really the only downside though and is far from a deal-breaker in my opinion, especially since this could be fixed in a future update and looking at Apple's support forums it looks like I'm far from the only one who wants to be able to turn this off. I wouldn't want to turn off the automatic video re--orientation either, only cover flow. I still really love this Nano. The only thing that would really make it better is for the Alarms feature to become accessible as well as a few of the video settings options (the options themselves are read but not their state). For example, the option "TV Out" is read, but its three possible states (on, off, and ask) are not. Ah well, nothing's perfect. But hey, we got our first out-of-the-box accessible portable media player, and obviously they're improving it. I'm more than happy with the nano. What I'm really looking forward to though is an accessible iPod touch or iPhone. They've got the power needed for genuine tts, and they're nice PDAs as well. Here's hoping :).

On Nov 5, 2008, at 21:03, Esther wrote:

Hi Chris,

I don't do a lot of rating on the fly using the iPod and scroll wheel, so this isn't a big item for me. When I use rating, I usually do this holding the Nano in my right hand, resting on my fingers, while I use my thumb to scroll from the 3 o'clock position to the 6 o'clock position. I don't get any jumps when I do that.

The 4G Nano scroll wheel action is a lot more fine-grained than the 1G or 2G Nano wheels, and I'm more likely to overscroll when I pick my finger up if I hold it in my left hand and use the index finger of my right hand (for scrubbing or on longer menus). That may be because the front and back of the 4G Nano is curved.

Scrolling action is really the only thing I'd like to change (back to the 2G) on the 4G Nano, especially for scrubbing through audiobook tracks. I even like the audio quality on the 4G Nano (for music) better than the 2G's, although this is idiosyncratic. I'd be curious to hear Jacob's impressions, though.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

Ester, when rating things on the IPod itself, have you found that the wheel when selecting the amount a stars is so pathetically sinsitive that you get it say three stars, but then you remove your finger from the wheel, and it jumps back say from 3 stars, say back to one? It's extremely annoying.

Chris.


Second click of center of wheel:

If you don't hear a rating for the song, you can use the scroll wheel to rate the track (0 to 5 stars; moving clockwise increases rating, counterclockwise lowers it.)


Some of this (and other features) was covered in the original core dump report of what was accessible on the iPod Nano 4G.

HTH


Cheers,

Esther

P.S. You can also check out the 4G Nano User's Guide if you haven't already picked it up:

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/ iPod_nano_4th_gen_UserGuide.pdf








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