Hum, apparently that doesn't apply to importing cd's since I can't
find a way to change the folder they get imported to, but it's all
moot now since I now have a real cd ripper.
Best,
erik burggraaf
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On 9-Nov-08, at 11:52 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
You can tell ITunes not to put something into the music folder, but
it still imports it into the Library.
Thanks for listneing,
Alex,
On 9-Nov-08, at 11:39 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi Scott,
To answer your question, "why don't I want ITunes to organize my
music", let me explain a bit about where I'm coming from.
As a windows user I had a file manager for managing files (windows
explorer), a burning program for making cd's and dvd's (B'S
recorder), a media player for playing media (winamp), and a
catalogger for making sense of it all (mpeg audio collection). All
of these programs were streamlined to a fault and incredibly good
at their specific task. Burning an audio cd was a 3 step process,
playing an album or an audiobook was a two step process, and none
of these things conflicted with eachother. Now I do evrything on
laptop computers and space is an issue. Never-the-less, I still
buy, beg and borrow a farely predigious amount of music albums and
audiobooks, and I manage them thus.
Items come in and get checked for quality and completeness. The
ones that make it past the screening move to a burning area where
they are backed up onto an albums, books, or bootlegs dvd with a
catalog number. The books and bootlegs are then removed and the
albums are transferred to my albums collection to be handy in case
I take to listening to them. The bootlegs I usually play straight
off the backup dvd's. The books I'm listening to stay on disc
until I've read them then they get replaced. No matter what, it
all has to be organized before it gets burned, because the dvd's
get fed into the catalogger, and they need to be laid out properly
or the catalogging system falls over. The ocasional mistake
doesn't hurt anything, but complete chaos would not work. The
catalogs are used both for letting people know what I have for
sharing purposes, and for finding something that is stored offline.
When ITunes came along, I tried to like it, and spent several weeks
attempting to make friends before I finally lost it one day and
gave up. It would do just hellatiously irritating things, like for
example. Before I discovered quicklook, I used to press command O
on my voicemail messages and of course when they opened in ITunes,
they got librafied and thrown in with my music. Then I'd have to
go in and find and delete them out of my library. When I opened a
book of course it would play just fine, only it would throw all the
book files, which could be anywhere from 10 to 500 depending on the
size and configuration of the book straight into my library with my
music and I'd have to get rid of them out of the library when I was
done. Of course it would also want to copy the files into the
library and those would have to go too. I'm not sure what I'm
going to do when it comes time to put a book onto my ipod.
There were a number of really considerate people here who took who
knows how much time to try and get me comfortable with ITunes.
When I had an issue as I did frequently in those days they would
send me good step-by-step instructions. These invariably began
with the words, "This is really easy", or "all you have to do is",
and then they would outline a process that was never shorter than
15 or 20 steps, and usually involved playlists, or smart play
lists, and I forget what all. Since I used to hit a button on a
folder and have it play in order, or hit two buttons on a folder
and have it play on shuffle, I found it a lot of pomp just to play
an album or an audiobook.
I'm not interested in smart playlists. I don't care what's in my
top 25. I don't need a party shuffle. I don't want a library, and
no one has yet outlined to me why one is indispensible. And since
ITunes is the only media player I know of that forced one to use a
library and essencially took over complete control of all your
files, I simply abandoned it. I have a really good program for
burning on the mac. Finder is at least as good an organizer as
windows explorer, and better in some respects. I have very nice
mac check some and parity data tools. I've used a fully accessible
tagger, although it's a paid product and I have been hoping to find
a donationware one that works just as well. I have a media player
that does exactly what I want, although it's a bit buggy and needs
some more work. I was a bit razzed about having to use ITunes to
sync my music over to my IPod, but I think that'll be OK. I just
set my library folder to the folder that has my albums collection
in it. So, presumably when I update that folder with new albums
they'll zip over to the ipod where they should be. I'm not sure
what I'm going to do about audiobooks yet. Some experimentation is
in order there.
I've got two cd's to rip, and I thought if ITunes would do it
sucsinctly I would tollerate the necessity of moving them to my
burn folder and then putting them back once they had been added to
the backup and catalogged. Unhappily, as with most of my ITunes
experience, it's failed to meet simple expectations. So, I'll
spend the time to do it right and then I'll be good'n prepaired for
christmas holidays, when I usually buy rather a lot of CD's, grins.
Per your suggestion, I'm sifting the contact and support pages, but
I don't see a report a bug option. Do I need to do this in the
forums?
Best,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
Sales department: 888-828-2445
Support and Training: 888-255-5194
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On 9-Nov-08, at 8:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
You are correct that it seems the settings are not being saved. I
did make a number of adjustments wondering if there was some
conflict based on the settings. You may very well wish to report
this to Apple as well. Is there any particular reason you don't
want iTunes to manage/catalog your music?
On Nov 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
OK friends, I'm back in to ITunes because I have to have it for
my mp3 player. It is a true test of my love for my macbook.
Right now I'm thinkin bout going out to the fire escape and
kicking it so I can hear it rang! Clang! Bang! down three
fleights of stairs to the pavement.
Here's my current problem. I haven't found anything I really
like for ripping cd's, and I've got a few that I want to convert
to mp3. I figured since ITunes is already here and I have to
librafy my albums collection anyway to sync it with my IPod, I
may as well give it a shot and see if it flies at all.
I have run up against two problems. The first is that I can't
figure out how to tell ITunes not to put my cd rips in with the
rest of my music. This is rather important because before the
albums go into my collection, they need to have .sfv files
added. Then they need to be backed up to DVD and the dvd's need
to be catalogged. The files themselves may also need minor
adjustments. For example, I always remove words like A or The
from artist names to make them sort into the proper order. I
think I could do all this even if the files are placed into my
library, but it would just be faster and easier to have them in
their own folder. I've looked through the import settings, but I
don't see a way to do this.
The second is the thing that's really got me. I only like high
bitrate natural stereo mp3's, and I've got the where with all to
indulge my tastes, or at least I did on the windows side. Now
you would think this would be straight forward.
Open Itunes.
Push command comma for the preferences.
VO to the import settings button and press vo space.
VO space on the encode using popup button and change it to mp3.
VO Space on the Setting popup button and change it to custome.
That much of it works just fine.
When I press enter on custome I get lovely options.
I set the stereo bit rate to 192, The sampling rate to 44100 hz,
and the channel seperation to normal.
When I hit the OK button I still have the encoder set to mp3 and
the setting option set to custome, but in the detales box it
still says 160 kbps 44100 hz joint stereo.
I've tried pressing the OK button to save all the settings and
when I press command comma to get back to prefs it still says 160
kbps.
I've tried it with the smart encoding adjustments box checked and
unchecked.
I'd think it was a possible permition error, but the encoder
setting always stays at mp3 and the setting button always stas at
custome. It's only the actual custom settings that revert. The
other strange thing is that the smart encoding check box stays
the way I put it. It was checked when I tried this the first
couple of times. Then I unchecked it and it has stayed unchecked
even as I re apply the settings so I can detale my problem for
this email.
Now I'm off to take a breather and scope some tunes or
something. The computer doesn't usually get me down, but ITunes
is so damned proprietary and useless, it gets the upper hand on
me all the time. I'll be greatful for any enlightenment you can
give me, and maybe when I settle down I'll have a quick google
and see if I can find a deacent ripping program for the mac.
Need a catalogger too come to think of it. I'm still using my
old windows catalogging system. It's a very nice catalogging
system, but it is quite old and under developped, and it's a bit
out of the way popping up windows just to find out what dvd's
such and such an artist resides on.
Thanks guys,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
Sales department: 888-828-2445
Support and Training: 888-255-5194
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website coming soon
Scott Howell
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