Just a couple of notes.  First, I have no idea what feature you are 
addressing here but in your message, you say you like tree views because 
column view is like windows.  For the sake of full disclosure, windows also 
has two other modes to view in just like osx.

As far as organization, have you looked at the browser in ITunes?  you can 
have all your albums listed, jenres, artists etc.  I just the album display.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "erik burggraaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: ripping cd's


Hi Scott,  Sorry about that, I didn't even think to look in the ITunes
menu.  Saddly my windowsish nature made itself evident, as I looked in
the help menu first and discovering it wasn't where it would be in
windows, dashed off an email, lol.  So it's done, fwew.  Hopefully it
will be useful.

I must agree with you on tree structures.  I keep my finder locked
into column mode which most closely relates to windows explorer
interface and it works extrordinairly well.  This morning before the
great cd ripping debacle, I had Itunes up and was playing with the
browser.  That'd be pretty nice, except that it came up with all my
music sorted by genra which really threw a branch in my spokes,
because I never knew I had so many genras in my music collection.  It
also seems that a surprising number of artists are cross-genra.  I was
going to have a play and see if I could get it sorted artist/albumn
the way things are laid out in finder, but then I got sidetracked on
the cd ripping issue.

I'd love to put all my stuff back on line.  I've been looking at
network attached storage, and we got a d-link dns323 up and running
here with two 1.5 tb hard drives for a client.  If the four bay's were
reasonable it might be fun to grab one and stack it up.  My
collection's pretty big, but that would definitely keep me going for a
while, grins.  I still don't think I'd use ITunes though.  All the
individual third party apps are so much less proprietary and more
powerful that it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.  The
more I use Itunes, the more I think it's like a sell phone with all
the latest hardware: Digital camera, video, mp3, wifi, the works.  If
you need to take a picture, the camera will do it, and it may do a
pretty good job.  But if you are in extreme lighting conditions or you
want to do action shots at 30 to 60 fps, well, the sellphone camera
probably won't hack it.  Most of the hardware in the rather expensive
all in one device is like that.  It's not useless, and it isn't
necessarily crap just because it's in an all in one, but it just can't
beat the power of stand alone devices.  The reason why I lose it with
ITunes is that where-as with most things you get a choice, ITunes
locks on and takes complete control, and you don't get an opt out.  It
may be benine control for the most part, but if you are in any way non-
conformist, ITunes fights you.

Audiobook builder looks like exactly what I need.  I don't really care
about chapter points and such.  To me the real value of the thing is
that it'll playlist and segment audiobooks automaticly from the rest
of the library, making them hopefully easier to add and remove without
disterbing the perminant residents.  Appreciate the tip, and thanks
very much.

Best,

erik burggraaf

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On 9-Nov-08, at 3:37 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Eric, first you can locate the option under the iTunes menu bar,
> just VO-m for the menu and arrow right to iTunes and arrow down to
> Provide iTunes Feedback. I don't fully understand the entire
> cataloging process, but it sounds as though you have a system that
> is considerably extensive and not always online and so iTunes may
> not have all the functionality you require. As far as managing a
> music collection, works great here, all my files end up in this
> lovely tree structure which I like so very much. I am a tree
> structure freak for sure.
> As far as importing a CD, I have to admit I'm not so sure why the
> settings aren't holding and you could possibly delete the plist
> associated with iTunes, but that seems extreme. I can say for the
> most part the audio book feature works well, but I did get a $10 app
> called Audiobook Builder which seems to help in the process. Syncing
> via iTunes to the iPod works very well indeed and so overall iTunes
> fits my needs well. I can understand of course you have a unique
> situation and so you need to use what works best for you.
>
>





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