Esther, under System Preferences, Universal Access, Mouse, the first option is use the keyboard in place of the mouse. You can set this so that if you tap the option key five times, you can use VO to route the mouse pointer to an item, and hold the control key down and press number 5. I've used this in those cases where I couldn't use VO+shift +spacebar. And yes I have also used the control and physical mouse as well. Sometimes it's easier to use the number 5 method since I don;t have to worry if I bumped the mouse a little.

On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Scott,

I'm curious about your instructions, because the instruction to turn on mouse keys so you can hold down control and press the number five on the keypad is the same as one of the ways to do a control-click with a "physical click" on a Mac when you're on a web page link and need to bring up the menu options to download or save a pdf or mp3 file instead of displaying in Safari. (Note to others: this bug has been fixed in the WebKit nightly builds since August, so if you use WebKit instead of Safari, the command to bring up contextual menus with VO-Shift-M will work when you're positioned at the link to download -- no more need to route your cursor to the link and control-click to get the menu options. This means the fix should also make it into the next major Safari release that uses corrections in the underlying WebKit engine.)

To continue, all those instances of "control-click" required a "physical click" with mouse or trackpad cursor to be made while you held down the control key, and the mouse cursor had to be at the location of the link (either because you set your navigation options to have your Mouse cursor track you VoiceOver cursor in the VoiceOver Utility, or because you issue the VO-Command-F5 to route your Mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor). By "physical click" as opposed to "software click", I mean that you had to use one of the following alternatives:

• click a button on an attached mouse
• press the trackpad button on a laptop
• press the "5" key on the number pad when NumPad Commander is activated (in Leopard) • on laptops, turn on MouseKeys and press the "i" -- this is the key that corresponds to "5" on older laptops (e.g. MacBooks made before November 2007, or MacBook Pros made before February 2008, I think) that still had a Numlock key function. Again, this only works for Leopard. On older notebooks with the Numlock key function on the F6 key, you may also be able to press "Fn+i" and get a "physical click". This is because pressing "Fn" plus the equivalent "Number Pad" keys gave you access to the Number Pad keys in VoiceOver without having to switch the Numlock function on. However, I don't have access to an old laptop with the Numlock option and with Leopard installed to test this.

By a "software click" I mean combinations like "VO-Shift-space" which generally work when you need to "double-click" by holding down Control-Option-Shift and tapping the space key.

Can you also use "Control-Click" with a Mouse to bring up the contextual menu (without turning on MouseKeys)?

Does this mean a laptop Mac user could either "Control-Click" with the Trackpad to bring up this menu, or turn on MouseKeys and press control plus the "i" key instead of the "5" key on a keypad to bring up the contextual menu?

Just wondering, because otherwise there doesn't seem to be a direct answer for laptop users. The multiple options seem to make sense as alternative ways to bring up the contextual menu, and provide a suggestion for how to do this on a laptop.

Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

I finally found my answer and hopefully I can explain this correctly. Bring up the list of virtual machines, this is the virtual library; use command+shift+l if you aren't already there. Now you will need to be sure your mouse is on the virtual machine you want to make the change too. You will need to turn on mouse keys so you can hold down control and press the number five on the keypad. This will bring up the contextual menu and there is an option in there for auto starting a virtual machine. If you do not know about the keypad option (this is not num pad commander for VO), let me know, but it is in the Universal Access in System Preferences under the mouse options.


On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Will Lomas wrote:

        hi all how can i stop fusion from auto starting an OS?
also when i tried to see if full screen was working when in xp the mac just made the error beep when arrowing around the fusion window no toolbar or similar object was visible



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