Hi Scott,
On Dec 4, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Esther, under System Preferences, Universal Access, Mouse, the first
option is use the keyboard in place of the mouse. You can set this
so that if you tap the option key five times, you can use VO to
route the mouse pointer to an item, and hold the control key down
and press number 5. I've used this in those cases where I couldn't
use VO+shift+spacebar. And yes I have also used the control and
physical mouse as well. Sometimes it's easier to use the number 5
method since I don;t have to worry if I bumped the mouse a little.
Thanks for the clarification. I think you can just check the box to
have "Mouse Cursor follows VoiceOver Cursor" and not check the box for
"VoiceOver Cursor follows Mouse Cursor" under the Navigation options
for the VoiceOver Utility if you're worried about bumping the mouse.
On laptops, this is less of an issue, since I don't usually rest
fingers on the trackpad to "move" the mouse cursor. In the current
version of Mac OS 10.5.5 you can also check a box to "Show Universal
Access Status in the menu bar" under System Preferences, Universal
Access. I find that helpful to verify that MouseKeys are activated.
Actually, tapping the option key five times is pretty straightforward,
but when I was checking VoiceOver focus behavior I would sometimes tap
this key five times to turn VoiceOver on or off, and hear things like
"Zoom mode off" when I had never turned it on to begin with, so I
think I was getting some cross-talk between the other Universal Access
menu settings, and wanted to verify exactly which settings the system
had turned on.
As I said in my post, I think all of the methods I listed under
"hardware click" are equivalent as far as VoiceOver is concerned. So
a laptop user could turn on MouseKeys and press the control key and
press the "i" key on their keyboard to get the same result you
experienced pressing Control+"5" on the keypad of your full-size
keyboard with MouseKeys on.
Cheers,
Esther
On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Scott,
I'm curious about your instructions, because the instruction to
turn on mouse keys so you can hold down control and press the
number five on the keypad is the same as one of the ways to do a
control-click with a "physical click" on a Mac when you're on a web
page link and need to bring up the menu options to download or save
a pdf or mp3 file instead of displaying in Safari. (Note to
others: this bug has been fixed in the WebKit nightly builds since
August, so if you use WebKit instead of Safari, the command to
bring up contextual menus with VO-Shift-M will work when you're
positioned at the link to download -- no more need to route your
cursor to the link and control-click to get the menu options. This
means the fix should also make it into the next major Safari
release that uses corrections in the underlying WebKit engine.)
To continue, all those instances of "control-click" required a
"physical click" with mouse or trackpad cursor to be made while you
held down the control key, and the mouse cursor had to be at the
location of the link (either because you set your navigation
options to have your Mouse cursor track you VoiceOver cursor in the
VoiceOver Utility, or because you issue the VO-Command-F5 to route
your Mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor). By "physical click"
as opposed to "software click", I mean that you had to use one of
the following alternatives:
• click a button on an attached mouse
• press the trackpad button on a laptop
• press the "5" key on the number pad when NumPad Commander is
activated (in Leopard)
• on laptops, turn on MouseKeys and press the "i" -- this is the
key that corresponds to "5" on older laptops (e.g. MacBooks made
before November 2007, or MacBook Pros made before February 2008, I
think) that still had a Numlock key function. Again, this only
works for Leopard. On older notebooks with the Numlock key
function on the F6 key, you may also be able to press "Fn+i" and
get a "physical click". This is because pressing "Fn" plus the
equivalent "Number Pad" keys gave you access to the Number Pad keys
in VoiceOver without having to switch the Numlock function on.
However, I don't have access to an old laptop with the Numlock
option and with Leopard installed to test this.
By a "software click" I mean combinations like "VO-Shift-space"
which generally work when you need to "double-click" by holding
down Control-Option-Shift and tapping the space key.
Can you also use "Control-Click" with a Mouse to bring up the
contextual menu (without turning on MouseKeys)?
Does this mean a laptop Mac user could either "Control-Click" with
the Trackpad to bring up this menu, or turn on MouseKeys and press
control plus the "i" key instead of the "5" key on a keypad to
bring up the contextual menu?
Just wondering, because otherwise there doesn't seem to be a direct
answer for laptop users. The multiple options seem to make sense
as alternative ways to bring up the contextual menu, and provide a
suggestion for how to do this on a laptop.
Cheers,
Esther
On Dec 4, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
I finally found my answer and hopefully I can explain this
correctly. Bring up the list of virtual machines, this is the
virtual library; use command+shift+l if you aren't already there.
Now you will need to be sure your mouse is on the virtual machine
you want to make the change too. You will need to turn on mouse
keys so you can hold down control and press the number five on the
keypad. This will bring up the contextual menu and there is an
option in there for auto starting a virtual machine.
If you do not know about the keypad option (this is not num pad
commander for VO), let me know, but it is in the Universal Access
in System Preferences under the mouse options.
On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Will Lomas wrote:
hi all how can i stop fusion from auto starting an OS?
also when i tried to see if full screen was working when in xp
the mac just made the error beep when arrowing around the fusion
window no toolbar or similar object was visible
Scott Howell
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