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On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Now if the studios would just do MP3s for all music from all download
services.
CB
Dan wrote:
Hello,
Also, in the US, Walmart has MP3 music at 256 bit with no DRM and
it's really nice.
Dan
On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Of course, that's ridiculous. Basically, I'm breaking the law by
turning my own, legally purchased, DVD disks into iPod-format
files. Well, I've only got this to say to that: too darn bad :). I
bought them, I'm not going to buy it again just to have it in
another format. Of course that's just one of the ridiculous cases
for the DMCA.
As far as HDCP goes, you won't escape it for long. Even on iTunes,
some of the HD video already has a similar scheme known as DPCP.
This only affects newer Macbooks and Macbook Pros at the moment, as
this is an encryption method for the new display port (DVI and Mini
DVI aren't affected). Basically, both the display port and your
monitor need to support DPCP, it is similar in concept to HDCP.
Failure to support DPCP on your monitor gives an error message,
saying this display is not authorized to play this content.
Completely ridiculous, naturally, how many people are going to want
to buy a new monitor just to watch their movies--movies, I might
add, that they have already purchased before this display port was
introduced?
I don't get it, I really don't. The only thing these restrictive
DRM schemes do is drive customers away, in many cases to pirated
versions that have been cleaned of these restrictions. They are
penalizing those who are legally buying content, and letting the
piraters off the hook. It seems the movie industry wants to take up
where the music industry left off, most record labels have gotten
it into their heads that DRM causes more problems than it solves,
and we now have stores like Amazon MP3 and iTunes Plus is growing
as well. I don't mind basic DRM, iTunes's fair play is fair enough:
up to five machines authorized to play the content, and you have
control over those authorizations at any time. This digital signal
encryption for video, I think, is going to push a lot of people
over the edge--I do understand what they're attempting to do, but I
think in trying to close one hole they're ripping an even larger
one. That, plus Blue Ray's capability to phone home and lock the
disk to one player only will hopefully cause an anti-DRM backlash
if this "feature" actually goes into widespread use. Fortunately as
of yet it doesn't seem to have done so.
Ok, done ranting :).
On Dec 9, 2008, at 17:39, Chris Blouch wrote:
From what I've read there is a whole encryption chain from the
player up to and including the output device (known as HDCP). So
if your TV doesn't support DRM or your player software or whatever
you get a downsampled version of the video or no video at all.
This is rather onerous and Apple has rejected the scheme so far.
Windows Vista has embraced it so it must be bad. I've also read
that the BlueRay encryption, like DVD encryption, was very weak
and is already cracked. Also like DVDs, in the US at least, the
mere act of breaking the encryption is illegal so avoiding all the
silliness is not possible without breaking the law. Apple is
probably banking that digital download via iTunes (or NetFlix or
BlockBuster) will be the new delivery platform of choice and this
whole bits on a disk with DRM distribution channel can just die
under the weight of its own torturous red tape. Some links for
your enjoyment:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/blu-ray_drm_cracked/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
http://techdirt.com/articles/20081030/1954252694.shtml
CB
Jacob Schmude wrote:
Not as stock, and I'm not sure if there are any blue ray players
for OS X at the moment. You could use an external drive, but
you'd still need a program capable of decrypting and playing the
video. Apple isn't embrasing blue ray yet, and I don't blame them
for holding out at the moment. You're not going to find any open
source blue ray movie players yet either, as the DRM and
encryption hasn't yet been cracked... and blue ray sure has a lot
of DRM, I'd venture to say a ridiculous amount though not all
movies use all of it.
There are some blue ray burners that are OS X compatible though
they're not cheap, but as far as I know there's no way to
actually play a blue ray movie.
On Dec 5, 2008, at 18:13, Will Lomas wrote:
hi can the macbooks play blueray dvd's
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