Hi Dan,

You asked:
Even though it is downloadable, do you have to be on apple care to get it?

Yes, you have to be on Apple Care to get TechTools Deluxe. From the download site for TechTools Deluxe at:

https://support.apple.com/techtooldeluxe/main?id=dl

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TechTool Deluxe from Micromat is a powerful diagnostic utility that allows you to test your computer's critical system components, such as the processor, RAM (random-access memory), VRAM (video random-access memory), the hard disk, and more. TechTool Deluxe can also repair your computer's disk structure and rebuild its directories as necessary.

TechTool Deluxe is only available with an AppleCare Protection Plan. If your Mac is currently covered under the Apple One-Year Limited warranty and you would like to extend your world-class telephone technical support and hardware repair coverage to three years from your computer’s date of purchase and get TechTool Deluxe, purchase an AppleCare Protection Plan today.

If you purchased AppleCare Protection Plan for your Mac and need to download the latest version of TechTool Deluxe, please enter your serial number below so that we can validate your coverage.

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On Dec 24, 2008, at 3:20 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

you get it from apple care but I think it is also downloadable.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

David - neat! Should techtool deluxe have come with my macbook by any
chance?  I do recall a few extra cds in the box, don't recall what
they were.

On 12/24/08, David Poehlman <[email protected]> wrote:
If you have techtool deluxe, you can do the hardware checks accessibly.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,
You said:  An update for anybody following this thread...

I wanted to install Leopard on to an external drive, just so I've got something to boot up over Christmas... geek factor is firmly set to on here! Thought I'd do that before I got into toying with Terminal and disk warrior and suchlike. Amazingly, the setup assistant sees my old
macintosh HD volume and from the filesizes everything looks fine.
It's transfering over just over 100 GB as I write, which may take a
while yes, but it looks like this might save my bacon. If this does work, it leads me to think that it's most likely to be something along the lines of volume headers being corrupted or other such stuff that I
know nada about like Tim suggested rather than mechanical failure.
Is that a sensible assumption?  Again assuming this works, I was
planning
to go for a format of the internal drive and a reinstall

TK: Yes this process will work to save data. You can then perform a clean install to the Macintosh HD and all header info will be replaced and things will work as they should. The difference with this method
is that you'll need to reinstall any software that you had installed
after the fact and re-apply all Software Updates. A fair bit of work
but it does the job and is less expensive than purchasing disk
Warrior.  Disk Warrior is quicker and reliable but isn't free.

Scott: , but is there

any checks I can do on top of the usual disk utility stuff to get a
better idea of whether my hd is on its way out?

TK:  You can use Apple Hardware Test if you'd like.  Place your
Leopard Install DVD in the drive and press the "d" key as the startup
chime rings.  This will give a number of hardware test options
including RAM and HD but this isn't accessible either so sighted
assistance will be necessary.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
& Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada













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