Justin, I do have an interest in Latex if there's a way to turn out
the documents in more than pdf. If I can get instructors to accept the
pdf files then I'm good, but if not, I'll have to find some other
format. If they could even be exported/saved etc. as rtf files, that
would be a good deal. I have not had the opportunity to dig very far
into this, but if you can tell me what I need to get started and if I
can do a bit of rtfm to get up and running, this might be a solution.
I know I saddly haven't enough hours to really learn all there is to
know, but I have done a little html coding in the past, so inserting
characters into my document as I type won't be a problem for me. Hell
if I could type in commands to center text and all that stuff, at
least I'd know I was getting what I wanted instead of assuming the
word processor actually did it.
I'm going to go out and try to dig up the package you mentioned and if
there is a particular document I should read that would help me get up
and going as quickly as possible., please let me know.
tnx
On Dec 25, 2008, at 11:03 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
Me too. Not that I would be planning on changing over to wigiwise
word formatting, but I am always interested to know what's crackin
in the mac VO world for normal people who don't feel like spending
hours of their time glooed to a computer getting headaches over
buggy LaTeX documents etc. Not that that's how it is anymore for
me, but the learning curve was a bit steep.
Now I did write some papers on the mac using textedit a few years
back when I first got it. They turned out fine. I was able to do
doublespacing and that was about as complex as I needed to make it.
I actually had to open the docs in MS word under win to format with
headers.
The impression I have got lately with the short looks I have taken
at wigiwise word processors under OS X such as OO, and Nisus, has
been that it is fine if all you need to do is some bold and
italicized text, double or 1.5 line spacing, a footnote or endnote
here and there, and a big bold title, but for people with more
serious word processing needs such as headers and footers, and these
weird requirements for bibliographies imposed by the APA society,
among others, the word processing world under mac just doesn't cut
it. Note that I am only refering to the wigiwise processors. As
well this does not imply that I have ever successfully done any of
this stuff under windows. My personal experience has been that
before I changed over to the mac, I never really took word
processing seriously, and since my switch, the quality of my written
documents has improved, thanks to the LaTeX document preparation
system with voiceover. Mac OS X with voiceover offers a LaTeX
experience like no other I have worked with. it is easy to install,
it is pleasant to type and read with, it is relyable, and it just
works. I have tried to use LaTeX solutions under win and found it
difficult to read the error log which is very important for
typesetting, and that typing latex with JAWS just wasn't as
enjoyable. I also tried it under linux and found that nice, but I
definitely prefer my mac.
So again, I could be one of those people who contends that
wordprocessing under the mac is better than win based on my own
experiences, but that would not be taking into consideration the
fact that I had to learn to typeset with LaTeX to get any compelling
output from my machine. I would like to note also that I have tried
in the past to query this list for tips on working with wigiwise to
get no answer. All that said, if someone would like to write us on
this and tell us what they have accomplished with OO or Nisus in
terms of word processing, I would be quite happy. As well if anyone
ever decides to take the LaTeX root, I am always here if you have a
buggy document that is giving you problems, or if you just have a
typesetting question. I am used to these sorts of emails as I teach
a class on this very subject at UC Berkeley. As well I'm sure that
Esther would be willing to do the same.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Dec 25, 2008, at 6:17 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I'm hoping that someone will post on this but they may actually
hang out on the macvoiceover list.
On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
Hi David
folk are having pretty good luck with oo.
What have people managed to work out with its word processor?
Scott Howell
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