Hi,

Then Orange Organizer will be the thing for you.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 16-Jan-09, at 1:40 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

Erik, I know this wasn't directed to me, and that you're being a bit sarcastic here, <smile> but to be completely honest, I'd actually really love a system by which TextEdit or any of the Word processing software could organize / cross reference all of my documents on my system. No joke! This would make my life a hell of a lot easier! lol! -This is a major reason I'd love to see more / better access to IPhoto as well!…

You may not know, but in addition to being a model / musician, I'm also a published author, and an editor. So tend to have a whole lot of documents on my system at any given time. I'm of course, in the habit of using very descriptive file names however, a filing system like the one you so glibly mention, <smile> would be totally awesome for me!…

In IDE's for coding, they automatically manage entire projects in much the same way Itunes does, in the sense that they set up somewhat arbitrary folder structures for the user, and all of the necessary files / libraries are imported / managed by the software automagically, so the coder themselves, can get more actual coding done, rather than messing about with the low-level stuff. This is not a new paradigm, and is just part of the 'evolution' of computing.

As far as ITunes goes, I also have as large an ITunes library as you do, and have at least that much again in 'real- space that I haven't even imported. -One of these days, when I get a chance! lol!


I also have hundreds of podcast episodes that ITunes keeps straight for me which I can access in literally, seconds. I don't have time or desire to go mucking about with remembering which material is in which folder and such. That sort of thing is simply a blatant waste of my time. For me, if ITunes, can organize it so I can find it / work with it easily, then I like it! <smile> The computer does the work so I don't have to! lol!

For ripping, I simply insert the disc, and either click 'yes' to import it or listen a bit and click the import button in the ITunes window. -Super quick / easy. Yes, if ITunes can't find the name of the disc, then I need to name it myself, but that too, is super easy.

I simply go to my recently added playlist, select all the tracks I just imported, and change all of their info in one fell swoop! <smile> -done!… ITunes then creates the appropriate folder or simply moves the files to the appropriate existing folder. -Very simple!…

If I want to then burn a few tracks to a disc, I simply select them from the library, either by entire album, or just a few random tracks, bring up a context menu, and click add to playlist. I've already set up a playlist just for this, so then all I need to do is click burn, and it's started. How does it honestly get any simpler than this on any platform at all?… This is as simple as anything else I've seen…

Furthermore, if I want to convert audio formats, I simply change my encoder setting, select the file(s) and click the convert option in the menu. -Once again, done!…

I don't need to go searching around my hd for any folders or filenames or such. In less than a minute, I've got what I want done, done. <smile> -No fuss, no fanfare, no wasting time! <smile>

No offense to anyone, but I'm not an uber-geek; I don't want to f# $k around with a computer. It's there to help me get things done and enjoy that process a bit more! <smile>

Now, this note isn't in any way, shape or form, meant to counter the VLC is better, idea. That's not why I wrote this. <smile> This is obviously just a difference of style / pref, and that's cool! … I just don't like the tone that one is better, so therefore, the other must suck! lol! That's just so puerile / adolescent!…

They both have their place, and I do use VLC from time to time for very specific tasks when I need them. (super obscure file formats for testing and such) It's just that for 99.9 percent of my audio needs, ITunes really performs perfectly for me. So there ya go, that's just me. -Well, and millions of others as well, I guess! lol!

Anyway, thanks Erik, for your very intelligent / thought-provoking comments! Rock on and have an awesome day / weekend!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)

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On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hi David, Are you using a filing cabinet software to organize your word processer documents? That would be really handy for searching and sorting wouldn't it? You could comment and rate them, catagorise them by custom headings and cross-reference them. You could embed links from document to document for even faster referencing of information, but we could put them in a code that only the filing software understands. Then we could custom format a flash drive so you could cary your whole office around and use it on any computer that has the software. That would be a lot more robust than organizing them in finder or windows explorer wouldn't it? We could lock you in, bombard you with features you may or may not like, and fix it so in order to get to your documents you have to use our software. You'd like it because it's pretty, and evry one in the office uses it, so there's no compadibility issue... most of the time.

I'm not sure why giving all the software on a computer equal access to files and filing, and using pristeenly designed individual tools taylored to specific tasks should be intimidating to any one, but the ITunes system obviously works for you, where-as it doesn't for me. In fact, I have never actually witnessed it to work beyond the see the file, play the file point, always assuming you see the file right away of course. I have three sighted siblings and they all profess evrything from general approval to out and out love of ITunes, and yet, they have never been able to demonstrate to me how easy it is.

I did get ITunes to grab some podcasts for me at one point, and it syncs my music folder to my IPod when I plug in right enough, but that is about the extent of it. Some hard core fans really did try to help me out with this, and they always said very encouraging things like, "This is really easy", and "All you have to do is", and then they would hand me a 15 to 25 step guide with 2 or 3 levels of procedure taking me to where I wanted to go.

Apple's definitely doing something right. They hold, what, over 50% of the mp3 player market share. Owning an IPod is a status symbol. Then there is the ITunes store, which it seems will get a bit of a face lift this quarter, and since you are locked in to ITunes if you want to use either of those, it's not surprizing tha ITunes gets more than it's share of use. There are a lot of manufacturers besides apple, though. I couldn't tell you who the leaders are, but with 50% going to apple, any one you pull out of the pack is going to be pretty far behind the 8-ball, but that doesn't mean the rest of the other 50% doesn't exist. I chose IPod personally because I like the hardware, and I know I can make it do what I need. It wasn't my only choice though, and may not even have been my best one in some ways. Fortunately in our system, we do have choice.

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On 16-Jan-09, at 7:07 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

Eric, you are looking at this the rong way round. ITunes is the ipitomy of ease of use for the average and even highly technical user in many ways and your approach is something I cannot fathom. I did nt get into serious audio till I got ITunes for that reason. I can burn a cd in ITunes simply by selecting the audio I want on it and click burn or click burn select the audio and click burn again or something like that. I can rip a cd in much the same way but if I want the whole cd, I can just say import and it will import it and stack it nicely into my library. I can make an ITunes play list if there is too much on my hd to fit on my nano. I can use a creative zen if I want to but then I don't want to because the nano 4g is so accessible. I use a card for my victor reader stream. I copy the stuff I want on the card which by the way is strangely set up according to the stream requirements. I have to say though that the ITunes/IPod interface is the one I use most often because it does so much for me and is so easy to use.

Capitalism only works if you have customers and they must be doing something right because they have customers who *choose* apple over everything else even though players have been around for a long time before ITunes ever came out. Microsoft keeps failing in this department and creative is loosing ground and is pretty far behind apple so we must assume unless the consumer is really stupid tha with all the choices out there, they are choosing what they want.





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