Daniel Carrera wrote:
Chad Smith wrote:
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Everyone program I've every used (and I have over 15 word processors or office suites that I play with and test) starts the cursor at the top of the document whenever you open it. That's normal. That's standard. That's what people expect.

That should be a setting :-)

and it was in 1.1 - so WHY remove it ? i've got used to it, it is one of the things that feel so right when you get used to them. i was completely sure that msword does the same - are you sure that it doesn't ?


i'm used to this _feature_ so that when checking out 1.9 builds i thought that either i have done something wrong or it is some 'regression-bug-appeared-in-last-2-builds' and will be fixed in the next build.

i can live with features not being implemented for a long time (resources are limited and oo.org has improved a lot), but i would hate to see fetures being removed. and not some obscure half-features, half-bugs - removing something this good would cause unsatisfaction for many oo.org users. it's just some of us that cry out in lists or issuezilla - i'm sure there are a lot more who don't read lists - and losing features in a new release doesn't help for an image...

Because having the document start where you left off can be inmensely useful. Especially for avid writers like me.

We had a long discussion not too long ago about the proper number of choices. Choice is a good thing, but too many choices is a bad thing.

True.

Gnome has an interesting way to approach this. Each application has a preferences window, but it's always very simple, very minimal. Only the 10% of the entries that 90% of the people want.

 "But what about the other 90% of the options?"

The other 90% is still available, but it's well hidden behind a tool called "GConf". This tool has a massive list of every option imaginable. So the options can still be set, but they don't take away from usability.

I mention this in case we can learn something from Gnome. Gnome is a project with many many more options than OOo, and *yet* it has unparalelled usability and simplicity. I think it makes sense to learn from people who have already solved a problem we currently face.

this question is raised again and again :)
i personally like oo.org prefrences, though i understand that it might seem pretty overwhelming (especially for new users). i believe the most proposed version - separation of preferences - would be the best solution. a lot of applications are doing this (xine, opera (in next release), firefox and others), so we have examples.


it probably could be as a choice when a user first starts oo.org (in user preferences) - wether to present beginner, advanced or expert preferences. isn't there an issue already after this much talk about it ?

Cheers,

-- Rich

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