On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 12:09:10 PM -0800, Bruce Byfield
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> Marco Fioretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >This can be made a no-brainer (rpm -Uvh *rpm, and it does
> >everything by itself, or just use synaptic or similar GUI, but
...

> The comment, as you correctly infer, was written with new users in
> mind. Thanks for noticing!

You're welcome. I have just realized a couple of things more about
this packaging issue:

1) the article doesn't mention something that mightly bothered me some
   build ago, that is non relocatable rpms. Is that still the case?
   You can bet that, script or not, newbies are going to be pissed by
   that

2) Another thing not mentioned in the article is the great advantage
   (potentially at least) of many smaller packages vs a big one. OK,
   initially you still have to download many MBs, but then upgrades of
   one component don't force you to get again the whole collection.
   Which is precisely what many dial up users keep asking every 2/3
   weeks.
> 
> >:-) Gee, wasn't this just what was said here before Christmas?
> >Back then the objection to Java were also from a simplicity
> >standpoint (avoid duplication and such), but a lot of time
> >went by just to debate whether those involved were key
> >functionalities or not
> 
> When someone else expressed a dislike for the move towards Java as a 
> comment to the article, Daniel Carrera pointed that Java was what the 
> contributors had chosen to work in.

The smiley in my comment was not addressed to the _language_ chosen by
those with time and skills. It was directed to the fact that, when we
discussed it here, there was a _strong_, repeated assertion, with
which I disagree, that the functionalities requiring it are just
extensions, not key features. Reading you explicitly stating the
contrary made me happy :-)

Marco F.

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Marco Fioretti                    mfioretti, at the server mclink.it
Red Hat & Fedora for low memory   http://www.rule-project.org/

The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering
iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas.

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