Mathias Bauer wrote:
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Andrew Brown wrote:
I think Peter puts it best: "This kind of thing would NEVER happen this fast with a MS product. I know this seems slow, but it really only took 3 - 4 months of serious squacking to get it changed."
It's good that it's changed -- and it seems to me that the change will be in the m88 builds, which are not quite yet out. But let's not be too smug about MS here. This kind of public beta is what we have to do instead of usability labs. And I think it's obvious that they would change anything that got feedback as bad in the usabilty labs as the castrated quickstarter did.
Also remember that it took 200 votes to have it changed. It became the single most requested feature in IZ before a developer did what ammounted to less than an hour's work.
I think we should expect more responsiveness than this.
Sorry, but why do you think that it was less than an hour's work (what is in fact wrong)?
Dear Mathias, the point is not how much work have been involved in getting this again, but the effort wasted in a silly usability test, time wasted in making up the decision and writing a specs document to remove that functionality from the quickstarter. If NO designer were had thinked about touching a single line of code here, what a saving of developer time!
Casually, I was readig issue 39486 before reading this.
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39486
There you have another example of existing functionality that is wasted due to deeply wrong and biased usability scenario.
And there are some more expamples. I agree that many real improvements too of course!!. But why to drop out good and working functions? This is what I do not understand. I hope that the designers could realize that there's something that has gone very wrong in the process of designing specs for 2.0.
When I read the Q document I do not see it implies all that silly changes. If we would want to work with a clone of MS-Office, we were working with the real MS-office. Many of us like OOo *because* it is different from MS-Office: more profesional, cleaner interface, easier to do the normal things (not the absolute beginner things).
I remember a citation (don't know fron whom): do not argue with an idiot, perhaps sideviewer do not realize which is the idiot. If OOo ends up being designed to the root for the absolute beginner users, we may upset and lost the regular people. Again, not a rant against some user people, simply that the usability scenarios I have read supporting these decisions are completely absurd, imaginary and non-existent in real world.
- Enrique -
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