Le samedi 23 avril 2005 Ã 09:20 +0200, Pavel JanÃk a Ãcrit :
>    From: Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:43:34 -0400
> 
>    > Uhmm... I think I am talking about the same community. I am referring
>    > to what I see on public forums like Newsforge, Groklaw, LinuxToday
>    > etc. You haven't seen any comments that say "don't trust Sun"? I've
>    > seen many.
> 
> Yes, I have seen many. I have also seen many comments like this about every
> other company. E.g. about Microsoft. And still Microsoft is winning awards
> with "best company" etc. This is called psychology... Never ever trust
> people when they are anonymous.

Right, that's why democratic states conduct anonymous polls.
If you're trying to kid yourself FOSS people love Sun I doubt it'll work
anywhere but here (I've already written my thoughts on this lists
abrasiveness towards people that are not worshipping Sun). And you know
what ? A _big_ reason for this is Sun itself has not decided yet if it
loves FS or just OSS and keeps making moves that rub people the wrong
way.

Sure defensive stupidity is not limited to Sun. It got us xemacs,
XFree86 exploding after a defensive license change, Mozilla having to
embark in a big relicensing project when it realised people really liked
the GPL and not custom licensing, etc, etc

A lot of people may be willing to put these feelings aside for a time
and work through the JCA or whatever. That does not mean they like it,
that their position won't ever evolve to something more radical, that
they represent all the FOSS people, or that they'll blindly accept a
move to an even more defensive license (that some people wrote about on
the list). Go read the XFree86 list archives - they too didn't believe
people cared about licensing, felt secure in the fact everyone was using
their project, refused to listen to all warnings, and see where it got
them.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

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