Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone have numbers on this? Is OOo the most often included >office suite on Linux or is it not?
Well, about the only distribution I've heard of that doesn't include it is Slackware. However, inclusion isn't the issue, since most distros also include AbiWord and Koffice.
I seem to remember several studies that suggest that something like 75% of GNU/Linux users use OOo as their office suite of choice.
>This whole conversation is beyond me.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but whether you or anyone else agrees with the position doesn't matter.
What does matter is that there are people who hold the position. And, moreover, these are people who, if their objections are answered, will promote OOo and maybe get involved in it. You don't need to agree with the position to see that it's bad public relations and bad strategy to upset potential allies.
>OOo is done 95% or more by *SUN EMPLOYEES*. If SUN wants to use Sun's >Java - then they can, and should.
But Sun doesn't own OOo. It doesn't control it, either -- the Community Council is supposed to.
Besides, if Sun wants to use Java, there's always StarOffice. One of the points of the dual licensing is to separate the free and non-free versions
At any rate, there's another issue that nobody seems to have picked up on. When Base was being built, one of the requirements was that it be open source. How was that requirement dropped? The decision to drop it doesn't seem to have been taken by the Community Council. It seems to have been made by developers without consultations. If that is true, then the OOo structure seems dysfunctional.
>If these little Free Software Freaks want it Java-free
You've been attacked many times on OOo lists for your personal beliefs. I'm surprised that you're not more tolerant.
In many cases, free software is as important to its supporters as your religious beliefs are to you. That may be hard to understand. You may say that religion is far more important than free software.
Yet, so far as I can see, it's true. And if it is, you don't have to accept the belief to show some respect for it.
>I'm not concerned in the least about us losing some FSF >programmers - because we don't have any!
I wouldn't begin to know. But it doesn't really matter, because people contribute in more ways than programming. In particular, many free software people are distributors of OpenOffice.org, working to make it compatible with their distributions. OOo's programming might be unaffected by their non-participation, but its distribution definitely would be.
-- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7177 http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield
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