James,

There a a bibliographic list just for such questions at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am pleased to be able to tell you that you can achieve what you are trying 
to do with Bookmarks, Cross-references and with some manual effort. You do 
not have to update to version 2 or a future update to do this.

Instructions
===========
When you have a reference you want to refer to, say number 26 which is a 
reference such as  (werner:2004).

Select the citation number '26' characters and declare it a Bookmark (using 
Insert->Bookmark) and give it a name (ie 'werner:2004').

Then when you want to refer to that work via its citation number ie "As 
clearly described by Werner in [26] .....

Select Insert->Cross-reference-->'Reference tab'-->Bookmarks

Select the werner:2004 bookmark and the 'Reference' Format. This will insert 
the citation number.

When the citation numbers changes (as when you add or delete citations) the 
bookmark number in the text and the cross-references will be updated as well.
==============

You can find some macros that can extend OOo cross referencing abilities at 
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/hillview/OOo/
and 
http://ooomacros.org/

For some instructions on how to use cross-references see an article by Bruce 
Byfield at http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8112

A note for people who have not worked this out - The setting for selecting 
numbered citation entries is in the bibliographic table insertion panel, not 
the citation entry panel.

We agree with you this would be a lot easier if the bibliographic entries 
where directly available from the Cross-reference facility.

Perhaps someone could write a macro to convert the bibliographic entries into 
Cross-reference entries ? 

regards

David 
 



On Saturday 07 May 2005 6:25 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm an MSc student of the sciences from a South African university and have
> been closely following OpenOffice 2.0. in anticipation of its release. I
> have found that Writer is a program far superior to anything Word can
> offer.
> I would just like to ask a question: in writing up the references for any
> sort of scientific paper one would need to insert the entries from a
> bibliographic database (probably Biblio that comes with writer). Some
> journals that one can submit papers to require that the references be
> numbered and referred to in the text as such e.g. ...so and so (1) claim
> that... but later admitted (2) that...
> 1. So and so. 2001. Arbitrary title. Journal 1: 1-10.
> 2. So and so. 2003. Another title. Another Journal 2: 31-33.
>
> When revising such a paper, one may be obliged to remove a reference which
> means that the number of every reference after that one has to be moved a
> number up e.g. if reference 1 is removed then reference 2 would become
> reference 1. This would also mean that any mention in the text would also
> have to be changed i.e. ...but later admitted (1) that...
>
> My question is this. Is it not possible to introduce some form of
> programming into Writer that would immediately note when a reference
> number, as in the example above, changes, and make all the necessary
> changes in the text.
>
> I look forward to possibly seeing this development in OOo 2.0.
>
> Keep up the great work.
>
> Kind regards
> James Mehl
>
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> Department of Microbiology and Plant Pathology
> Tree Protection Cooperative Programme (TPCP)
> Forestry and Agricultural Biotechnology Institute (FABI)
> University of Pretoria (UP)
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>
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David N. Wilson
Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic 
OpenOffice Project
http://bibliographic.openoffice.org

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