First off, Marco, I think Peter was not speaking to you in that case,
but the other bitching guy, who hasn't said as much as you, but all he
said was negative, much like you.  You may have realized that, and
decided to answer anyway, on your own behalf.  Your wording seems to
be able to go either way on that one.

On 7/24/05, M. Fioretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 13:43:25 PM -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > OOC: If you hate this list so much, as you have aluded to so far and
> > think we are conceited and don't know how to do things, why do you
> > stay here?
> 
> Since you and many others are probably wondering the same thing about
> myself, I will answer for *me*:
> 
> I *do* have a life and too many other things to do, both off and
> online, to waste my time trolling.

your actions seem to indicate otherwise.  I think bitching about the
same thing over and over again, offering the same rejected and
generally "poo-pooed" so-called "solution" everytime pretty much falls
under the label "Trolling".

> 
> I have been subscribed for a short time to the Linux Kernel developers
> list. Down there it's *much* worse than here, in my opinion,
> netiquette-wise (no need to waste time describing how). But I didn't
> care at all in that case. Because, as "open" as it is, that one is a
> list for a very, very limited elite. Almost every human being will
> never bother to read the kernel source, or patch/compile it, so as
> long their work is available to everybody, we can let that closed
> group communicate *internally* however they damn please. We would
> never post or subscribe to *that* list anyway, so why bother?
> 
> But OO.o/OpenDocument are different. Everybody since elementary
> schools need a free (as in freedom) office suite and file format.
> Including the billions of people who have trouble even switching on
> a computer. Here it is about equal opportunities, civil rights and so
> on.
> 
> THIS is the reason why I keep bitching so much about these issues:
> *exactly* because I find OO.o/OpenDocument too important for everybody
> to not support *everybody* (including unsubscribed) IN THE MOST
> EFFECTIVE WAY. Forcing moderators to do so much manually and regular
> (more expert) users to endure a lot of totally unnecessary messages is
> not effective.

The method we have working gets all the messages to the subscribed and
the unsubscribed without flooding the unsub's mailbox with a lot of
"helpful" reposts from multiple volunteers.  The only drawback is that
annoys *YOU*.  And, I for one, am willing to live with that
ineffectiveness.

-- 
-Chad Smith

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