On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:31:33 +0100, Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(See the recent "*Beyond 2.0*" thread in discuss for some background on this
comment.)

I blog. Well, I just started, but it is so cool. I mean, I'm a web developer for a job, so I am all giddy over seeing "my work" on the web. I even have
my own website, so I'm not all excited about being able to say whatever I
want (instead of what my boss wants.) What I am stoked about is that I can put my content on the web for the world to see, without having to be my own webmaster! All the satisfaction of having my own global soapbox, without any
of the coding hassles! It's *GREAT*! Now, that being said, it is somewhat
limiting, even though I can code the template if I wanted to, and it's not
likely to get much (read - any) traffic, but it's still nice to have.

That all being said, Blogger (http://www.blogger.com/) - owned by Google,
and home to my personal blogs, (I've got two, but one was really just a demo of what a Blog is for my boss), has a tool. I do not know the source of this tool, but this tool is directly related to OpenOffice.org - and why I share
my blogging experience with you all. The tool is called Blogger for Word.
And, as the cryptic name suggests if you look hard enough, it is a add-on
for Microsoft Word that allows you to edit and create your blog on Blogger
directly without having to go online and log into
Blogger.com<http://Blogger.com>
.

You open up a normal Word document, start typing away, adding links,
formatting, pictures (actually, I haven't tried adding pictures, so that
might not work), whatever, then you simply press "Publish" on the Blogger
bar, and - whala! - you've blogged.

Now, there is a tiny amount of setup involved. You have to enter in your
login and password in a dialog box of the blogger bar so it knows where to put the post, and, of course, you have to be online to publish it, but not
to create it or edit it.

The plugin works with multiple blogs under the same username, and, as many usernames as you want can login - one at a time. You can create new posts,
or even edit old ones - all from Microsoft Word.

Here's more about it:

http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=1180

Here's where to get it:

http://buzz.blogger.com/bloggerforword.html

Now, in case you haven't figured it out, I'll tell you why I bring this up
here.

OPENOFFICE.ORG <http://OPENOFFICE.ORG> NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THIS!

Now, before you all get into the whole: OOo can already do this by creating an HTML file, and then using FTP to save it online, or by creating a Writer file, and then you copy and paste it into your online blog-editor, or before
*anyone* mentions the letters XML - I want to say this. I'm talking about
something that works exactly the same way as Blogger for Word. You open a
new file, type away, press publish, and you're done. I'm also talking about
something, therefore, that would be Blog-host specfic (I suggest starting
Blogger, since Google will soon rule the world), and would allow users to
save their username and passwords so they don't have to feel like they are logging in each time. This tool is for bloggers, not hackers or programmers.
Bloggers (of which I am one) have problems running spellcheck, so telling
them to write a macro is like asking them to parse pi. It ain't gonna
happen.

Since Google is FLOSS-friendly, and has already allowed plugins to be made
so their stuff can work with OOo, they would probably give equal time to
this proposed plugin. It would make OOo more popular (Bloggers love free
stuff - since Blogger itself is free, as is the Word plugin). And it would
put OOo more in touch with Web 2.0.

And, once again to nip trite statements in the bud, I am not a programmer. I
can't write this. If I could, I would. And, yes, I know this is all
volunteer. I'm not telling anyone what to do, or ordering that my demands be met. I'm just offering a suggestion that could help improve OOo, and make it more popular. Blogger is the biggest blog site on earth, owned by one of the
most popular tech companies on earth. Linking up with them (but not being
tied to them - we can make similiar tools for other blogsites) would only
help OOo, and we could hype the heck out of this one. Tapping into the
Blogosphere can only mean good this for OpenOffice.org.

Let the unneeded unprovoked flaming of my ideas begin. I can't wait until
someone tells me how I "just don't understand" something. =-/

-Chad Smith

However which API to choose, you got blogger and MetaWeblog, but you also have 100 other blog centers. Blogger is like the geocities, but also is not alone, MovableTypes, LiveJournal, WordPress, PyBloxom, etc etc. I will actually preffer seen one for WordPress since is commercial (like blogger) but also is free software (you can download the app and install it in your server). Making you blog on an API.

For example you can already use OOo with DokuWiki which is also is a killer app for publishing. Read this http://applications.linux.com/print.pl?sid=05/01/10/232235 might gives you the tips to install it and configure it. It is already a plug-in to publish your documents -- partially.

The only piece of the pie missing is an actual client that can connect to the Web and syncronize publish it without end-user interaction. Even the DokuWiki plug-in just put the data in your clipboard (not the web).

""Once DokuWiki is installed, it's time to configure OpenOffice.org Writer. To be able to use Writer with DokuWiki, you need to download and install the Iannz DokuWiki macro, which parses the currently opened Writer document, converts it into the DokuWiki format (the original document remains intact), and copies it into the Clipboard. All you have to do then is paste the contents of the Clipboard into a new DokuWiki page.""

A good example of what you want is already founded in Gnome-blog and probably some other applications allow you to do this publishing. The only thing will be actually is use the open source method, download Gnome-blog code read it and modify it. Fortunately you can bind openoffice.org with external applications. DannyB from OOoForum explains methods to do this. So in theory you can bind gnome-blog publishing engine to OOo and have this accesability.

If you think this escape your capabilities you can contract a developer and ask him to do that. I bet you can get some talented developers on a Linux user group as well as some programming houses. Hopefully you can ask them to release this under GPL.


--
Alexandro Colorado
CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES
http://es.openoffice.org

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