Andrew Brown wrote:

Gianluca Turconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:dnjv0v$gc9$2
@sea.gmane.org:

Of course, if you want to show to the readers the truth of an axiom like: "Open Source as a way of producing software has limitations" you can *show* examples, but you don't *demonstrate* anything.



I think we have a cultural problem here. I really cannot understand the distinction your making between "showing" that openoffice is full of bugs and "demonstrating" it.

When I point out that there are ~700 bugs marked fixed in 2.01, but present in 2.0, I think I am "demonstrating" that the process by which OOo is released has limitations. You may say I am merely showing it. The distinction does nothing to reduce the bug count.

You might say that this is untypical for open source software as a whole -- but that would be really ridiculous. Everyone knows that OOo is one of the most successful and relatively bug-free bits of open source software in the world, and that the huge majority of sourceforge projects don't bloody work at all.


But all that is really showing is that bugs do get fixed. How many of the 700 bugs are minor? Every piece of software that is available has bugs, there are service packs for everything. How many bugs does MSO or Corel Office have in them? How many are fixed from the initial major release to the first service pack or minor release?

To say that the process in which OOo is released has limitations I feel makes no sense. Are you also saying that because the software has bugs that it must be a limitation, what is the solution, since all software has bugs?. The only difference between the way OOo is released and the other Office Suites is that you can look at the bug tracking software and see all major and minor bugs, let's see if MS will let you look at their issue tracking software and see how many bugs it has that are not reported.

Some more questions to consider.

How many of the 700 bugs are Linux, Windows, Solaris? (Multi-platform software will have different issues for each platform) How many are Linus build related issues, (something that is unique to Linux software, I do not build my own copy of MSO.)

700 bugs seems like a small number when you consider all that OOo does and all the platforms that it does it on.




James Walker

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