On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:59:29 +0100
Dominik Zühlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm unhappy with the way Listing/Numbering works in Writing-Software
> including the Oo Writer. I have a suggestion to make it work easier
> for amatuer users / ungeek persons. I think the system as it is, is
> unintuitive and needs a lot of fumbling to get it the way you want.
> Every person I ask about it who isn't an IT specialist would agree
> with me on that one. ( Just watched the department head of research
> and development of our company get really frustrated with MS Office
> while trying to get the numbering in a document right ) Example:
> 
> 1.1 headline
> 
> text text text
> lot of text
> spreadsheet
> text text 
> 
> 1.2 headline
> 
> text text text
> 
> 
> to make the headlines 1.1 and 1.2 look the same takes me forever, if
> you don't get the right order pressing "enter" it takes even longer,
> because then the numbering has a different size than the headline and
> stuff like that, so you have to start over. I bet that it is possible
> to pre configure these things ( putting some 10 minutes in it though)
> but it should be more intuitive, avaible off the start and I don't
> want to take time read the manual of a writing software, no time for
> that, rtfm my a.. , no offense. I want to include numbering in an easy
> way WHILE writing not edit it AFTERWARDS or BEFORE writing.
> 
> Solution: If a numbering is entered a dialog should pop up asking the
> user to what other headline this numbering should become connected to
> or if it should start a new numbering or if numbering should be turned
> off in the whole for this document. If the user picks "connect to this
> (user should just click the appropriate headline at this moment)
> headline" the writer should automatically convert the new list item in
> the way the one that the user connected it to is configured (same
> style, same size, same distance to page boarders).  This dialog screen
> should pop up not in front of the written stuff, but on the side, to
> make it less annoying. Maybe the headlines available for connection
> should be marked in some way. You could have all your headlines
> including numbering done in one scroll and one mouse click, so easy.
> Of course it should be possible to turn this feature off after first
> appearance for the pros.
> 
> would be very cool to see that feature in a new edition of your
> awesome office software! You would make so many friends with an easy
> user interface like that ( and surpass MS ), I think this is a "the
> one who does it first wins" feature.
> 
> best regards

Pop up windows are a huge no-no. They really break the flow of getting
content onto the page.

If you are not interested in learning how to do things correctly we can
not help you. If you are interested, read up on styles, then get back to
us. An hours reading and experimenting will save you 50% of the time you
spend formatting your documents, allowing you much more time to worry
about content. The following is the top entry from googling "openoffice
styles tutorial":
http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/styles.html

I know you do not understand styles correctly by your comment
<quote>
same style, same size, same distance to page boarders
</quote>
Font size, font face, and indentation are all attributes of a style.
They do not rate equally as you are trying to say here.

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