On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 19:26 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > On 1/18/06, Jonathon Coombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:25 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > > > On 1/18/06, Pavel Janík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: Chad Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:43:37 -0500 > > SNIP! > > > X11, on the other hand, does not come preinstalled, nor is it a part > > > of the default install of OS X. It is included on the disc, but you > > > have to purposefully (a) know it's there (b) know how to find it and > > > (c) ask for it specifically - before you get it. And you can't just > > > download it or install it by itself in Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). If you > > > try to download it from the Apple website, it will download, but when > > > you try to install it, the system tells you that you "already have > > > newer software installed" and doesn't give you any choice but to stop. > > > To install X11 on a system that is already running Tiger, you have to > > > *reinstall Tiger* to do it, potentially losing data and/or > > > preferences. > > > > No problem for me. I have done it simply and easily since 10.1 up to > > 10.4.4 now. > > > Let me try, once again, to explain.
OK. Let me explain again for you. > If TODAY you were to get a new Mac from Apple, with no special requests to > put X11 on it, it will not run OpenOffice.org proper out of the box. It > will, however, run NeoOffice. If you got the new Mac, which would have > Macintosh OS X 10.4.4 on it, and visit the apple.com website, and then > download the X11 they have hosted there - it will not install on Tiger. It > says you have a newer version already installed. If you do, OpenOffice.org > 2.0 does not recognize it. I tested this again today on the eMac I got just > a few short months ago and the OpenOffice.org I downloaded today and the X11 > I downloaded today. By TODAY, I assume you mean since Tiger was made available on the new Apple machines. Well, mine is less that 2 months old and came with Tiger pre-installed. I installed OOo with X11 onto it without any issue, or without having to re-install Tiger. What is the problem? OK. So you are saying if 10.4.4 is already on it, then X11 will not install. This I have not been able to verify. I take it this is what you mean, right? I don't want to test it just yet, as I have to do presentations on it in a few days in New Zealand :) > It will work on my laptop that had X11 installed when it was running 10.2, > and then I upgraded to Tiger. But if you start with Tiger already > installed, you cannot in any way I've been able to find, install X11 without > reinstalling Tiger as well. Hang on, do you mean Tiger, or do you mean 10.4.4 version of Tiger? Because I have had no problem with 10.4.3 so far. > If you have X11 "grandfathered in" from a previous version of OS X, then > sure. If you have 10.2 or 10.3 - it's not that hard, easy, some would say. > But starting on a Mac sold in the last year, or upgraded to Tiger without > X11 being installed, you have to do it the way I've described. At least > according to all the googling and asking and testing I've done. No, mine was a new install off the Tiger DVD that came with the new machine. Regards Jonathon -- OOo Tips: http://mindmeld.cybersite.com.au/tips.rss OOo Knowledgebase: http://mindmeld.cybersite.com.au Training4Linux: http://www.training4linux.com Cybersite Consulting: http://www.cybersite.com.au --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
