On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 22:27 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Jonathon Coombes wrote:
> 
> > The funny thing here is that this so called "Ribbon" was what we  
> > called the Object Toolbar in OpenOffice.org 1.x series. When you clicked on 
> > a different  
> > object eg cell, shape, word, table etc, the toolbar would change. However,  
> > people wanted the interface to be more like MS Office, so they changed it 
> > to have  
> > the floating toolbars related to object choice instead now.
> 
> You seem to misinterpret the changes in the OOo2.0 toolbars. The object
> toolbars are still present (and they still replace each other when the
> selection changes), but now we have the additional "formatting" toolbar
> that does no longer become exchanged by an object bar but always is
> visible too. The reason for this change was that too many people failed
> to find this toolbar once it got exchanged (e.g. when the cursor was
> moved to a table). It has a drawback though because now you have three
> toolbars when an object is selected and only two when none is selected
> (and you are editing pure text).
> 
> The object bars now are floating toolbars by default, you can change
> this easily by moving them to the window edge you like.

Agreed. I think you are just saying what I mentioned in a different way.
I did not mention the "formatting" toolbar, but the floating toolbars
that work similarly to the object bar of old.

> This is still very different to MS Office, their implementation of
> context sensitivity is much more limited than ours, but this will change
> with "ribbon".

I have not looked at MS Office too much, but when you context 
sensitivity, do you mean in the floating toolbar action or as part
of the context menu?

> The "ribbon" UI is not the same as our object toolbars, it's comparable
> but goes even beyond it and much more consequently reduces the shown
> elements.
> 
> I don't think that implementing something like this for Ooo would be
> impossible, not even very hard, but I don't see a reason to do so ATM,
> there are more important things to do (as kindly enough was already
> mentioned here ;-)).

Agreed. Although I am intrigued now by what you mentioned as will have
to do a little more research into the "ribbon" method.

Regards
Jonathon
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