On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 23:38:37 PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Not surprising, it only reflects the tester/average user ratio.  Do
> you want to make tester life easier, because they are few and you
> need to nurture them, or do you want to discriminate against them
> because they're a minority?

Hey, don't get me wrong, we're on the same side. What gave you the
impression that I want to discriminate testers? I have nothing against
them or the anonymizer macro. If somebody ever writes it, it will
surely be a great thing. I have just explained why I believe that it's
unlikely to happen, or to be widely used.

> The benefit of a big corp employee to run such a macro is to get his
> bugs fixed, to he can justify continued use of his tool of choice.

I said that _personally_, I cannot justify it where I work and would
not make any difference, and that I believe most "big corp employees"
are in the same situation. If there are exceptions, I'm happy for it.

> And why would he want to use OO.o?

Of course PDF export is always a big plus. Defining a color
palette... I've never had any reason to do anything like that in 12
years I've been working, but surely can be very useful in other
careers/companies.

> But there is absolutely zero immediate benefit for the user, and
> even if altruism is satisfying small rewards always help.

I'm not sure I got what you meant with this last sentence. In any
case, I don't mean to discourage those who use and debug FOSS for
altruism. I have summarized why I believe anonymizers wouldn't be
practical as other alternatives. If OpenDocument wasn't advancing and
if I had the time, for example, I'd do what I described earlier with
public patents and research papers, and file bug against _them_,
rather than sending company files. Apart from legal issues, the former
would be much more interesting to read :-)
 
> Who do you think writes the service contracts? The contractor or
> your company?

:-) This is not fair. You know I can't speak really openly with my
real name on a public list...

Seriously, a multinational company, especially one so... smart to
outsorce its IT, has NO interest at all to specify "experiments" or
support for unneeded software, just to keep working and using without
wasting one minute years of older files. The contractor of a
multinational is often another big company which sells integrated
"solutions", ie very often has no interest at all to sell and support
relatively untested desktop stuff.
None of them will go towards FOSS unless forced by law.

So, again, this is why personally I've always thought more interesting
and effective to lobby for OpenDocument adoption rather than climb
this particular hill. I'm grateful to all who do file bugs with any
method against the .doc filters, of course, that's useful too.

Ciao,
        Marco

-- 
Marco Fioretti                    mfioretti, at the server mclink.it
Fedora Core 5 for low memory      http://www.rule-project.org/

It isn't easy being a Friday kind of person in a Monday kind of world.

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