Hello,

This is my first post to [email protected], so the suggested introduction:

My name is Jacob L Anawalt. I am a programmer by hobby and trade and
have grown up with computers. I started with the Macintosh platform,
did windows where I have to (work) and switched to Debian GNU/Linux
where I can (servers & my computers.)

I have been using OpenOffice.org for quite some time. I was drawn to
it initially because of it's office suite nature (vs a collection of
individually developed office tools) and saw something that would work
for my immediate family. I love to see all the great stuff happening
in OOo. My main personal hitch is documentation and the installation
process flow. I would like to see it continue to mature into something
that I can recommend to my extended family without reservation (or
personal tech support.)


This leads into the reason I've taken the time to register for the bug
tracking system and this list to post: Yet Another Upgrade email. My
thoughts are about the flow and documentation of the upgrade or even
the installation process, not about saving download time or whatever.

I have been using OOo for a number of years. The workstation-centric
installation process in the first few versions seemed very foreign for
a single-computer windows application, but I understood the concept it
and figured out how to install a 'workstation' setup for myself and my
wife on Windows XP.

I welcomed the installer with the newer versions that dropped the
workstation question, but then this Installation Folder appeared and I
didn't know what to do with it. Searching the web and mailing lists
you can see that I am not the only one who is confused. The plan-b
upgrade tutorial [1] says to delete the thing when you're done but the
OOo tips 'n tricks blog [2] says don't do that, or you can't do a
clean uninstall. While the folder seems like a bit of a wart on the
windows installation process (fortunately the Debian package has no
such weirdness) it would be easier to accept with some good
documentation explaining why you may or may not want to keep the
folder, and giving a suggestion on where to save it would be very
appreciated. (The desktop or wherever the 120MiB self-extracting
installer is saved is not a great place to keep a huge folder for the
next 6-18 months.)

[1] http://plan-b-for-openoffice.org/intro/topic/upgrade-openoffice-org
[2] http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt/date/20071026

I was even happier to see the beginnings of an automatic update
process in 2.x. I didn't know how it worked, so I was a little wary to
try a potentially beta feature. One time when it said there was an
update I tried it out. After a bit I was asked where to save the
folder "OpenOffice.org 2.3 Installation Files", but I already had that
folder and I had no idea if I should choose the same directory, rename
it to 2.3.newx, or what. Nothing on the site told me. So, I just
uninstalled downloaded and reinstalled. So much for the automatic
update.

Now 2.4 is out with lots of fixes and improvements. Thank you very
much! I want it, but the same roadblocks are thrown up. Do I uninstall
first? Is there some recommended upgrade path? Does it matter if I'm
upgrading from 1.x, 2.0.x or 2.2 or 2.3? These are questions floating
through my mind as I bittorrent the download, so I click the
Installation Instructions link on the download page [3], but the page
says it's for 2.0 and doesn't answer the questions in my mind.
Download done. Start the installer and I'm reminded of the other
questions. Where do I stick this folder and do I keep it around? What
if there is a 2.4.x update?

[3] http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html

I'm not proposing code changes or process changes because I don't know
the reasons behind the current methods. I'm just looking for an
official OpenOffice.org explanation of why the Installation Folder
exists, recommendations on where to keep it (if it should be kept),
and instructions on how to upgrade from version X to the current
version. I'm not asking for support either, I can make it work as I
have for the past several years. I am hoping to hear ideas that can be
turned into issues to update the OOo infrastructure so that I and
others have a source to turn to for these answers.

Jacob

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