Hi Cor, *,

Cor Nouws schrieb:
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The original proposal can be found in the archives: see http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=22513
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The current structure of the CC, voting and so on, is explained on the OOo website. See: http://council.openoffice.org/CouncilProposal.html chapter IV

The major difference between the current en proposed structure is that currently voting for the most seats is done by project leads and in the proposed structure can be done by all members who contribute code/art/translations to CVS.

I'd like to make some comments on the current situation (and derive a modified proposal from this).

- At the moment eligibilty is to much limited to a set of formal terms (like project-lead) .. also see request from Charles (make cathegory leads eligible) - Active project leads have hardly time to do both: maintain a project and do a good job at the council (see discussion at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and John's comments)

both leads to a situation where it is hard to find candidates for the council. And if we have candidates, it is hard to find deputies (who should per defintion be eligible for the same seat).

The problems I see in MM's proposal:
- the mentioned metrics for the voter register is very unclear (and I don't think, we would find a good metric that is fair for all parts of the community) - I don't like to have the voting scheme written in the charter - this can go to the bylaws (and therefore could be more easily adopted or modified)

So .. my proposal:
- leave the structure of the council as it is (1 CCR, 2 NL, 5 Project Leads, 1 Sun)
- Structure is not defined by "who is eligible" but "who can vote"
- every project member is eligible (where project member is "Observer" - we may restrict this to "developer in one project")
- elections willl mostly stay the same with following modifications:
- call for candidates needs to be on a public list (discuss@ for CCR, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for NL, dev@ for Project Leads) - anyone who is eligible can nominate herself and should introduce herself (and why she thinks she should sit at the council) on the above named list
 - CCR is elected by all Community members,
 - NLs are elected by Native Lang leads (+NL cathegory lead),
- PLs are elected by Project Leads (accepted + incubator + resp. cathegory leads - native lang) - other details about voting scheme are written in the bylaws, not in the charter (so remove statements about quorum from current charter or number of candidates)

goals of this proposal:
- make the council more like a bazar,not like a cathedral - what hopefully makes the Council work more interesting for each community member - grow the number of possible candidates (spread the "management" work across more community members and reduce workload for single members)
- make the election pocess more open and transparent
- respect merits of contributing members (project leads)

The flaws of the proposal are, that there is still much power granted to project leads. So before electing a candidate, project leads should get (and respect) comments from project members.

looking forward to reading other people's ideas.

André


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