>If the cloud and the internet is >the future and many think it is, smaller applets that work cooperatively >together will be the norm, not megalithic applications with high level >of proprietary integration.
I do think your mention of the cloud and Internet applications is very interesting, as I am using GoogleMail right now to send this measage, and google also offer other online programs like GoogleDocs, GoogleCalender, GooglePageCreator (a not-very-good web page creator), amd more that I can't remember. It isnt just google that have online apps, mail is the most common one, but document editing is becoming more common, and calender programs are more common now (although often in the form of a widget). Online programs are getting more common, and I think OOo could make a HTML, JavaScript and Java version of OOo and host it on there website. This would seem appropriate as Sun (the makers of OOo) also made Java. It could also prove hily profitable as they could stick adverts on this site (google also provide GoogleAdSense, witch pays you to put there Ads on your site). It would be good if OOo could make a .zip so that other sites could put the OOoOnlineVersion on there sites too. Hopefully OOo could replicate the binary (local) version exactly. 2008/11/2 Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 13:30 +0000, Clarke Rice wrote: > > > Hi Ian, Huan, > > > I'm of the generation where you used an image editing program and then > imported to your > > word-processor/DTP, so it's not a major hassle for me to revert to this > way of working. A lot > > of my (High School) students who have tried OOo do point out that it > "doesn't work" - as in, > > it doesn't have all the features they expect. > > That is a problem with the way we teach ICT around MS Office. There was > the argument it's what they will use at work but increasingly, is this > the case? Is it desirable to entrench young people early in particualar > work flows that could become redundant? If the cloud and the internet is > the future and many think it is, smaller applets that work cooperatively > together will be the norm, not megalithic applications with high level > of proprietary integration. After all, we don't expect one company to > produce every web site, we use a variety expecting information to > interoperate between them. > > > There's tons of features in Word I (and they) > > don't care about, but handy time-saving features like image compression > are missed when > > they aren't there. > > In my view, it's important to start teaching generic principles like > compression as a concept rather than a feature of a particular software > application. That is what we try to do with INGOTs - there is a long way > to get where we need to be largely because the educators as well as > those that are being educated are in a mindless "consumer mode" for > technology. I believe this to be the antithesis of what education should > be about. We want discerning users that question things ad are ready for > change. Any economy that achieves this is going to be at a significant > advantage to those that don't. > > > A typical experience they have is putting together a nice report with > lots of images and > > realising they can't email it (because our internal mail limits > attachment size to 2 MB). > > :-) We have a 2 meg limit for users in Drupal for file uploads so that > they have to think when constructing their e-portfolios. If they want a > video reference, put it on a site designed for video and make a link. > Use the power of the internet, don't assume every tool has to be capable > of everything. If they planned their images in the first place to be > optimal in size for the job before inserting them they would probably > find the e-mail worked. That is the sort of planning that should > separate a distinction candidate from a basic pass ;-) > > > Right-click, format image, delete cropped areas, compress all images - > it's a lot easier than > > putting all the images into Photoshop and reformatting them. > > > > Yep, useful tool. > > > > > 4. In MS Office 2007, the reference function (for citation in academic > > > writing) is very very helpful for students, faculties and scientists, > > > especially that it can automatically converting different styles of > > > citation. I HIGHLY recommend Openoffice.org can integrate such > > > functions in the future releases. > > > > I've heard this one mentioned before. MS give their products to > schools/colleges at reduced > > prices to make sure the next generation are hooked. If OOo is to keep > making inroads in > > these areas the usual excuse of "This key feature in Word just ain't in > OOo" has to be > > rendered useless. > > Or actually attempt teachers and students to be technically literate. > > > OOo is great for 95% of what I do - there are a few wee things where I > think MS Office has > > the edge. I can live with them missing from OOo -some people can't - for > them, the issue is > > whether the product does what they need, regardless of price, source, > etc. > > I use a combination of Google Docs, OOo, GIMP, Inkscape, Drupal, Moodle > to do what I need. All free applications and the minor losses in > functionality from lack of using MSO is more than compensated by using > Linux and getting no viruses or spyware. But you need to know how to do > it so the old adage of teaching is obvious. If you think education is > expensive, try ignorance :-) > > -- > Ian > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications > A new approach to assessment for learning > www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 > > You have received this email from the following company: The Learning > Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 > 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
