Thanks guys; good information and a couple of leads I needed.

Twayne





"Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> OO.o is great; don't get me wrong.  3.1 is an excellent step too! But 
> I have a few questions about annoyances that perhaps aren't OO.o
> problems but something I am missing in setup or the way I use things.
> I know questions should be limited to one per post, but I think this
> one really mitigates to be one post.
>   Please clarify whether the following are "that's the way it is", or,
> "There's a setting for that at ... ":
>
> I hate comparing things to Word because I've come to think of OO.o as
> something that stands on its own merit, but it's still the clearest
> way to make some points; please forgive the comparisons<g>
>
> 1.  Desktop:
> With OO.o, whenever I want the Desktop I have to start at My
> Documents, drill up, switch todrive  C:, then drill down to docs &
> settings, uname, desktop.
>   Why can't the Desktop have a mirror at the top of at least drive C?
> I guess I could switch it to use XP type boxes, but then I lose some
> of the OO.o box capabilities.  I haven't tried it, but I suspect that
> would give me back Desktop as an explorer choice instead of having to
> drill down to it.  In XP, no matter how deep into a structure you go,
> going all the way to the top always brings you to the desktop.  I
> occasionally put things on the desktop as sort of a post-it, where
> it's "in my face" and won't be forgotten.
>
> 2.  Save, Open dialogs and others:
> They don't remember the last setting used.  Once in awhile they do,
> but most of the time I find myself having to continually use the Up a
> Level, choose the drive letter and drill down to the same directory I
> used last time.
>   When/how does/doesn't the dialog box/es remember the last used
> directory?
>
> 3.  Will printing envelopes ever be straightened out?
>   It's better than it was and usually as long as the envelope is put
> in the printer to defaults, they work in general.  But if you have a
> different orientation (face up/down; long/short edge first,
> centered/right side of tray, etc.) they no longer print properly.
>   And, it's a real PIA to figure it out on one's own.  As soon as I
> think I OO.o Writer's envelope methods of dimensioning/positioning
> figured it, it doesn't work on the next non-standard envelope I have
> to make.
>
> 4.
> WORD, for whatever reason, can create, and properly print, an envelope
> of any size withing the loaded printer driver capabilities without my
> having to touch the printer or printer drivers themselves.
>    Writer however seems to measure things from the bottom of the page,
> the last part to enter the printer, as opposed to the leading edge,
> which is the top of the paper.  So, to get it to position things
> correctly, the printer must also be set for the exact correct paper
> size; it's not enough to let the program manage it.
>   Will the OO.o methodology ever be more along the lines of hos Word
> and any other processor I've used,  does it?
>   Or am I really missing something?  I've read multiple articles on
> the subject of envelopes and some are good, but ... they conflict
> with each other at times and still don't work out for me.  And I have
> standard, branded printers; HP and Epson.
>
> 5 Table Boundaries:
> Should be shown by default. I haven't met a single person yet to
> doesn't think tables, labels etc. are borked because they see nothing
> on the page.
>
> 6.  Copy/Paste Web Page content:
>   OO.o still does a pretty bad job of pasting into it from portions of
> copied data from web pages.  Usually when I do that I'm copying tech
> support types of pages, not overly complex pages and they often fail
> the readability test.  But I can jump over to Word and do the same
> paste and get a perfect copy nearly every time.  At the worst I might
> have to adjust a table column or two.  As a result I finish the task
> up in Word. My goal is to rid myself of MS and that gets in my way.
>
>
> Overall they're minor annoyances, I agree, with the exception of the
> envelope issues.  That one's a PITA.  But with all the fantastic work
> going on and the stellar capabilities of 00.o, it seems like another
> look at some of the basics might go a long, long ways to converting
> more newbies over. I haven't  yet bit-binned Office 2k2 because of a
> couple of those problems; when I'm in the middle of something I just
> can't be bothered to stop and work out Writer's issues.
>
> Anyway, there it is, for what it's worth.  I guess my point is, I
> think the timing would be excellent to take a look at some of the
> basics, the things any user is going to come across right away, and
> smooth them out and avoid any surprises or the feeling that a
> work-around needs to be found.
>   Any helpful comments would be most appreciated.  I realize it's
> entirely possible a few of these annoyances are my own doing, but ...
> if that's the case, I can't figure it out.
>
> Regards,
>
> Twayne





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