It is my understanding that the OpenOffice.org trademarks and all of the various domain registrations are being transferred to the Apache Software Foundation.
It might well be that a full-up site transfer can be pulled off, but it is the case that Apache infrastructure does not support everything that runs on the current OpenOffice.org sites and there may not be adequate resources to migrate and support them, like for like. Everything at ASF is done by volunteers. If it is something not already supported on Apache infrastructure, there has to be Apache OOo project members who step forward to carry out migration and continuing maintenance at the IT infrastructure level. We are completely missing any technical support for migrating, preserving, and operating these mailing lists, for example. That is a serious factual problem behind Rob Weir's warning that these lists may go away. (The message was more emphatic than that, but it isn't over until it's over.) Another example is the MediaWiki that is used on OpenOffice.org. There is no MediaWiki instance running anywhere at Apache. One was brought up on a test server provided by Apache on the condition that we had volunteers who could maintain it. Likewise for the forums. Moving Bugzilla, the Issue Tracker, was easy because that is an already-supported product on Apache infrastructure. Even then, it was not possible to preserve existing user passwords, so existing users have to go through a password-reset procedure in order to be set up on the new Bugzilla. Even then, there are lots of broken connections and other materials on OpenOffice.org that need to be corrected as well. The plumbing underneath the OpenOffice.org sites and their services is quite intricate and it is not a matter of just doing a system dump and coming up on another server that Apache can operate and direct the domain names to. You might be surprised to learn that there is more than one server involved, but that is all hidden under the façade of the overall site and domain name. Does that help? Too much information? - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Bret Busby [mailto:b...@busby.net] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 21:40 To: discuss@openoffice.org Subject: [discuss] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, David B Teague sr wrote: [ ... ] > You know that Oracle inherited OO.o by way of their purchase of SUN. Oracle > isn't going to provide support for OO.o as Sun did. They donated > OpenOffice.org source and trademarks to the Apache foundation and will end > their support for OO.o mailing lists and archives. There is far too much > valuable information that was and is being passed in these mailing lists to > let them and the archives just vanish. Apache will host new lists. [ ... ] I would have thought, however, in the circumstances, that, for the sake of transparency and convenience, Oracle would have similarly donated the domain name registration, to Apache, which would then have been able to host the Open Office mailing lists on its own servers, and, just changed the domain name registration, including the nameservers, and thus have had a fairly "seamless" transfer, with no need to change the mailing lists, so, one day, the lists are hosted on one set of servers (Oracle?) and the next day, the mailing lists are hosted on a different set of servers (Apache foundation), thus, apart from possibly, a few hours at the time of transference, no "visible" change need be apparent to lists subscribers. [ ... ] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
