Thanks Dave for the note. I have sent a reply to the list. Best regards, Jerome
> -----Message d'origine----- > De : Dave Pawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : mercredi 14 février 2007 16:10 > À : [email protected] > Objet : Fwd: [rest-discuss] Sun proposes to apply Web service > standardization principles to REST > > fyi, from the REST discuss list, sorry if you're on both lists. > > > He is not impressed! > > > regards > DaveP > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Elliotte Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 14-Feb-2007 14:56 > Subject: [rest-discuss] Sun proposes to apply Web service > standardization principles to REST > To: REST Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > It had to happen sooner or later. The big boys are waking up and > discovering REST, and naturally they want to protect all us little > developers from worrying our pretty little heads about nasty > things like > HTTP and XML by creating easy-to-use REST frameworks: > > JSR-311 Java API for RESTful Web Services > http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311 > > Remember, these are the same jokers who gave us servlets and the > URLConnection class as well as gems like JAX-RPC and JAX-WS. > They still > seem to believe that these are actually good specs, and they are > proposing to tunnel REST services through JAX-WS (Java API > for XML Web > Services) endpoints. > > They also seem to believe that "building RESTful Web > services using the > Java Platform is significantly more complex than building SOAP-based > services". I don't know that this is false, but if it's > true it's only > because Sun's HTTP API were designed by architecture astronauts who > didn't actually understand HTTP. This proposal does not seem to be > addressing the need for a decent HTTP API on either the > client or server > side that actually follows RESTful principles instead of fighting > against them. > > To give you an idea of the background we're dealing with here, one of > the two people who wrote the proposal "represents Sun on the W3C XML > Protocol and W3C WS-Addressing working groups where he is > co-editor of > the SOAP 1.2 and WS-Addressing 1.0 specifications. Marc was > co-specification lead for JAX-WS 2.0 (the Java API for Web Services) > developed at the JCP and has also served as Sun's technical lead and > alternate board member at the Web Services Interoperability > Organization > (WS-I)." > > The other submitter seems to be a primary instigator of the > Fast Infoset > effort to hide XML in binary goop. > > This is like asking Karl Rove and Dick Cheney to write the Democratic > Party platform. > > Do we really want to trust these folks to define the > official Java spec > for REST? Please read the JSR, and send comments to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I hope we can derail this completely, but we probably can't. > If not, are > there any JSR members here who might join the working group and bring > some sanity and actual REST experience to the development of the > eventual specification? If we can't stop it, maybe we can at > least limit > the damage. > > -- > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > > > > > -- > Dave Pawson > XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. > http://www.dpawson.co.uk
