Im not political, im a tech, but like Stallman always saids... you have to be a technician and political activist.
Anyways, Its funny how after decades of a world wide banking system sucking on our economies, finally foreclosure strikes big time in the US. Economies around the world start to crumble, banks declare bankrupcy,.. bankers have no one else to get money from, no new yachts or new pyramid schemes in wall street. And whats happens... your goverment bails them out. Gives them your tax money so they can continue their greedy lust for money. Finally the people had it! Good for you guys! --~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~------- -- Luis Fernando Gramajo P. http://www.guatewireless.org --~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~---------~--~------- On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Matt Fanady <[email protected]> wrote: > Probably wouldn't be a good idea to lend support to anything that overtly > political in nature, whether it be OWS, or Tea Party....I personally don't > want that kind of stigma either way, but thanks for the idea. > -M@ > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Neil Schneider <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is already made up. >> >> Donald Johnson wrote: >> > I do not need to read communist manifesto's >> > >> > --- On Wed, 10/26/11, Stephen Gornick <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > From: Stephen Gornick <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [SCFN] Occupy San Diego is organized and ready for the >> > Friday >> > Occupation of the Civic Center >> > To: "SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List" >> > <[email protected]> >> > Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 9:23 PM >> > >> > Donald, >> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Donald >> > Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > And why would we want to help a punch of communists destroy our banking >> > system.When they get done with that then they will do their best to >> > destroy >> > our government. >> > >> > >> >  The banking system destroyed itself.  Here might be some decent >> > reading to >> > help you understand why #Occupy is happening. >> > >> > http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025 >> > >> > >> > or this:http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/152811 >> > >> > >> > But this is a tech maillist and not for politics, I suspect. >> > I came down from #OccupyLA where I and other volunteers set up WiFi for >> > that >> > occupation and earlier this week I participated in #Occupy San Diego. >> > >> > >> > #Occupy L.A.'s deployment is the third of the Free Network Foundation's >> > FreedomTower ( photo: http://imgur.com/fna52 ).  #Occupy Wall Street >> > NYC >> > and #Occupy ATX (Austin) are the first two deployments.  (L.A.'s is >> > currently >> > just the access point + 4G, no mesh or connection to FreedomLink WAN >> > yet). >> > >> > From a recent blog post: >> > The Free Network Foundation is an organization whose purpose is to >> > steward the >> > creation of a censorship-proof, disruption-resistant, global >> > peer-to-peer >> > network which is fully owned and operated by its participants. They >> > managed to >> > get two prototype FreedomTowers up and running in time for Contact – >> > one at >> > Occupy Austin, the other here at Occupy Wall Street in Liberty Square. >> > The >> > towers are providing Internet access to the occupiers, and will be used >> > to >> > establish an occupation-to-occupation Virtual Private Network. Next >> > steps for >> > the FNF, according to its founder, Isaac Wilder, include continuing to >> > build >> > out their burgeoning Wide Area Network, applying to the American >> > Registry for >> > Internet Numbers for status as an Autonomous System, iterating and >> > improving >> > the design of FreedomTowers, and working with the FreedomBox project to >> > build >> > FreedomNode, a mesh-enabled FreedomBox capable of opportunistically >> > engaging >> > in communications that are materially >> > peer-to-peer. >> > >> >  - http://emergentbydesign.com/2011/10/25/what-the-contact-conference-was-really-about >> > >> > The FNF is co-founded by Charles Wyble, formerly of Los Angeles and >> > currently >> > living in Austin.  Charles had been active throughout the Southern >> > California >> > tech scene until he moved earlier this year.  I myself had many years >> > ago >> > been on a rooftop deploying SCFN (Golden Hills area / Pink Palace or >> > something >> > to that effect, IIRC). >> > >> >  http://www.freenetworkfoundation.org >> > I would encourage #OccupySD to consider asking that wifi deployment be >> > compatible the FNF's approach and hopefully #Occupy SD will be home for >> > the >> > first FreedomTower deployed in the San Diego area.  Having the ability >> > to >> > easily get to where communications between occupations are encrypted on >> > the >> > WAN will likely be important going forward.  I suppose getting >> > agreement on >> > this involves making a proposal during the General Assembly, perhaps >> > even an >> > #OccupySD technology team formed for this? >> > >> > >> > I spoke with an #Occupy SD team member Eden who had a honda generator >> > though >> > it was unknown if operating that onsite would be allowed.  He suggested >> > running it in the back of a truck on the street and extending an >> > extension >> > cord for the P.A. system. >> > >> > >> > Previously there had been a solar panel and battery powering the P.A. >> > system >> > but that solar equipment hasn't been seen since the police action ten >> > days >> > ago.  I couldn't find anyone who knew if that solar equipment was among >> > the >> > items confiscated, if it was a loaned item that was no longer available >> > or why >> > it was no longer used. >> > >> > >> > In L.A., the solar power is provided by Power Of Green LLC which has >> > staff >> > onsite in L.A., occupying.  They also provide training classes to >> >  other >> > occupiers on how to build a portable solar panel/battery/inverter >> > system. >> >  Solar is one component of the organization's sustainable living >> > offerings. >> > The #OccupyLA Media team also runs their own solar grid and uses >> > generators as >> > well to power their production systems.  These are occasionally tapped >> > for >> > the FreedomTower there in L.A. as well. >> > >> > >> > The FreedomTower specs include a modified Ubiquiti firmware that >> > includes OLSR >> > (for mesh). >> >> I remember the San Diego Fires and the Qualcomm network activation by >> >> the >> >> Socalfreenet. >> > >> > >> > If you already have a solution ready to deploy, then don't let anything >> > I've >> > said slow you down in mobilizing.  But please do take a look at the >> > FNF's >> > stuff: >> > >> > >> > - http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?page_id=94- http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?p=422 >> > >> > - http://thefnf.org:9001/ro/r.lug5aGlhVVAlXMIm >> > Thoughts? >> > Should anyone wish to reach me directly, my phone number is >> > 310-356-9912. >> > >> > - Stephen Gornick [email protected] +1.310.356.9912 >> > >> > >> > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List >> > To unsubscribe, please visit: >> > >> > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org_______________________________________________ >> > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List >> > To unsubscribe, please visit: >> > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List >> To unsubscribe, please visit: >> http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > To unsubscribe, please visit: > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org
