On Wed 24 October 2012 14:37:33 Trever Fischer wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 14:23 -0400, Penny Golightley wrote:
> > We have the bot as a reminder because historically, if we didn't have
> > an email reminder the day of the meeting then no one would show up. We
> > found a reminder email the day of goes a long way. Meetings are at 7pm
> > every tuesday. There has not been an exception to this since our
> > opening day back in May. If you want to come to a meeting, that's
> > great. However, I don't think it's Trever's or my responsibility to
> > remind everyone. If you need a reminder the day before, set your phone
> > to remind you. There's no reason why we should have to reprogram Phong
> > to remind everyone. We will stick with the system that has worked for
> > us for the past year.
> > 
> > And I just want to repeat a very key important point: it is NOT
> > Trever's and my job to annoy people to come to our meetings. Any
> > information you need about the goings on of the space is on our
> > website. Any more questions or concerns about this should be sent to
> > me personally. I don't want to spam our whole email list about this
> > anymore.
> 
> Or we could talk about it on the list in public or on a tuesday meeting.
> I think it is more excellent to have a public airing of grievances
> concerning tuesdays where we can have another tuesday thread instead of
> a private tuesday party in penny's inbox every other tuesday.

Why didn't I get that invitation? :(

> > Penny Golightley
> > [email protected]
> > 
> > On Oct 24, 2012 1:45 PM, "Michael James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         Trever, if meetings are every Tuesday, why do we even have the
> >         bot reminder at?  if we are going to have the bot reminder, 24
> >         hours is just a little more lead time, that's  all.
> >         
> >         
> >         -Michael
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> >                 Message: 1
> >                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:12:55 -0400 (EDT)
> >                 From: [email protected]
> >                 To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" <[email protected]>
> >                 Subject: [SH-Discuss]  bot
> >                 Message-ID:
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> >                 
> >                 Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs before
> >                 the next meeting.
> >                 Maybe more warning would get more people to show up?
> >                 Just a thought.
> >                 
> >                 Anyway,
> >                 What do you have going on tonight (wed night)?
> >                 
> >                 Andy
> >                 Dungeon Studios Prototyping
> >                 www.dsprototyping.com
> >                 [email protected]
> >                 (330)814-6103
> >                 
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> >                 ------------------------------
> >                 
> >                 Message: 2
> >                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:26:03 -0400 (EDT)
> >                 From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >                 To: [email protected]
> >                 Subject: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2012-10-23
> >                 Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >                 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >                 
> >                 Namaste, hakkers!
> >                 
> >                 I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2012-10-23
> >                 and that the minutes are posted. They are visible on
> >                 the web at http://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/23-10-2012.
> >                 I've also included them in this mail for reading at
> >                 your leisure:
> >                 
> >                 {{Infobox_meeting
> >                 
> >                 |time=7PM
> >                 |date=2012-10-23
> >                 |venue=1456 Riverside
> >                 |next=Meetings/30-10-2012
> >                 |previous=Meetings/16-10-2012
> >                 
> >                 }}
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 = Agenda =
> >                 
> >                 * '''Note Taker:''' Dan Swick
> >                 * '''Moderator:''' Trever Fischer
> >                 
> >                 == Introduction and Names ==
> >                 
> >                 * Devin has a saw but doesn't play in a band.
> >                 * Paul gets ready for vacation.
> >                 * Hannah is an artisan.
> >                 * Wendy lives across from Penny, the master baker
> >                 * Dan gets annoyed at being called "The Man."
> >                 * Trever doesn't play Minecraft but runs a really nice
> >                 server.
> >                 * Andrew is currently studying for an exam.
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 == Announcements ==
> >                 
> >                 * We has a bandsaws.
> >                 * We have parts trays, welding goggles.
> >                 * We have a label printer.
> >                 * Penny has started work on her wine-cork curtains.
> >                 * Saturday is board tour of 21 W. North Street. Will
> >                 try to sign lease. Move-in Dec 1, opening day Jan 5.
> >                 * We need speakers for next month and December.
> >                 * Devin will do a welding class in December!
> >                 * Trever will do intro to Arduino, Jan 7.
> >                 * Paul will do a sharpening workshop.
> >                 * Trever worked on a project called "Spiff." Will be
> >                 using for inventory, member payments, profile fields,
> >                 database of all member stuff. Can be used to track
> >                 training. Can schedule classes.
> >                 * QR codes are used for inventory, will take you
> >                 straight to Spiff page.
> >                 * Devin brought Jello(R) shots.
> >                 * 2nd Wednesday of next month, intro to soldering.
> >                 
> >                 == Membership ==
> >                 * None.
> >                 
> >                 == Financial Report ==
> >                 * Funds in bank: $3138.37
> >                 
> >                 == Proposals ==
> >                 
> >                 <!--
> >                 Proposal format:
> >                 
> >                 * '''Proposal''' by --~~~~:
> >                 
> >                 Copy the above example verbatim, and place it
> >                 immediately below this line. -->
> >                 '''SYN/HAK should be referred to as a makerspace and
> >                 not a hacker space.''' by
> >                 --[[Special:Contributions/76.188.197.165|
> >                 76.188.197.165]] 23:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT): Markus
> >                 Vogl (written by Penny Golightley)
> >                 
> >                 This reasons for this proposal is as follows:
> >                 People are intimidated by the word hacker. This has
> >                 been observed by a few of our members when marketing
> >                 the space and it was even enough of an issue to be
> >                 brought up at our WSKU interview. The term makerspace
> >                 is friendlier to the general population than
> >                 hackerspace. Markus told us at the last meeting he
> >                 attended that the Chicago makerspace said they had a
> >                 lot more success with the term makerspace than
> >                 hackerspace. This may be a better PR move.
> >                 ** Nobody will be forced to call it anything.
> >                 
> >                 * '''Alternative proposal''' by --[[User:Tdfischer|
> >                 Tdfischer]] 00:13, 23 October 2012 (EDT): We shouldn't
> >                 have a tagline in any promotional material. Members
> >                 should be free to call it what they want.
> >                 
> >                 ** Trever believes that the label is a false
> >                 dichotomy. We shouldn't call it anything, so it should
> >                 be called whatever we want. Take off the word
> >                 "Hackerspace" out of logos and promotional material.
> >                 Still up in the air, maybe "Make Share Create?"
> >                 Noisebridge - "We spurn the key and lock."
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 * '''Membership Responsibilities/Titles/Perks''' by
> >                 --[[User:Windcask|Windcask]] 14:05, 23 October 2012
> >                 (EDT): There's enough going on (and there will be lots
> >                 more after we get the space) that it might be time to
> >                 talk about membership responsibilities and holding
> >                 those who hold them to account. All of us should be
> >                 equally responsible for the success or failure of the
> >                 space as an organization and not rely on certain
> >                 higher-level members to move things along. Examples of
> >                 duties: PR/Social Media presence, custodial duties,
> >                 wiki spam cleanup, maintenance and inventory of
> >                 equipment, speaking events, demonstrations to the
> >                 public, etc.
> >                 
> >                 Holding to responsibilities could be accomplished by
> >                 positive reinforcement of some kind (special titles,
> >                 access to VPS services, higher-level trust in Syn/Hak
> >                 electronic infrastructure, reduced memberships, etc.).
> >                 * "Being awesome to everyone" should be enough to
> >                 motivate members to pitch in and help out. Leadership
> >                 should take the lead in the sharing of
> >                 responsibilities. Revisit later when it actually
> >                 becomes a problem.
> >                 
> >                 * '''SysAdmin Meetings''' - Also, proposal for
> >                 monthly/bi-monthly strategy meetings involving members
> >                 and important non-members (relrod for example) to talk
> >                 solely about website, social media, and space
> >                 electronics administration (servers, lab workstations,
> >                 door keys, etc.). Could be physical, could be
> >                 conference call or IRC chat.
> >                 Passed - 60 minutes before meeting last week in month,
> >                 get computer-inclined people involved.
> >                 
> >                 == Discussion Items ==
> >                 
> >                 * (Moved to discussion items) * '''Inventapalooza'''
> >                 by Devin : Tagline/address gets figured out, but Devin
> >                 will be working out a whole PR campaign and pay for
> >                 it.
> >                 
> >                 ------------------------------
> >                 
> >                 Message: 3
> >                 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:36:32 -0400
> >                 From: Trever Fischer <[email protected]>
> >                 To: SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]>
> >                 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] bot
> >                 Message-ID:
> >                 <[email protected]>
> >                 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >                 
> >                 On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 04:12 -0400,
> >                 
> >                 [email protected] wrote:
> >                 > Could you have the email reminders go out 24hrs
> >                 
> >                 before the next meeting.
> >                 
> >                 > Maybe more warning would get more people to show up?
> >                 
> >                 Just a thought.
> >                 
> >                 Meetings are every Tuesday. No need to warn people of
> >                 something that
> >                 happens every week without fail.
> >                 
> >                 > Anyway,
> >                 > What do you have going on tonight (wed night)?
> >                 
> >                 Tonight is Open Hacking Night, where people are
> >                 invited to come in and
> >                 make things. Nothing exceptional has been planned.
> >                 
> >                 I plan on working on my D&D table design a bit more by
> >                 finishing the
> >                 player deck, assembling some legs, and working on my
> >                 control circuitry.
> >                 
> >                 > Andy
> >                 > Dungeon Studios Prototyping
> >                 > www.dsprototyping.com
> >                 > [email protected]
> >                 > (330)814-6103
> >                 > 
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