On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:56:42 Omar Rassi wrote:
> Good.
> 
> I think the best solution concerning the thermostat at this time is to
> simply turn the heat down if you're closing and then back up again when the
> building is being occupied. There is no reason to turn it completely off
> when no is there, we don't want things to freeze but we also don't want it
> heated like someone's there when no one is there. Since there are no
> regular hours at this time, a programmable thermostat is not a good
> solution until regular hours start up again.

My regular hours haven't stopped. I've been at the space after 6pm all this 
week, but literally nobody has shown up.

> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I spoke with Devin yesterday and he let me know he is working on resolving
> > the hole in the ceiling.
> > 
> > The holes in the walls could be filled with a cement OR use some "great
> > stuff" spray foam. I would think doing this before painting would help.
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Andrew Buczko 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >> Yeah, like Omar said, I stopped in at the new space once and it felt warm
> >> and that was with the thermostat all the down at 50 :)
> >> 
> >> Devin might have some cement/motar stuff that you can use to seal those
> >> cracks.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Lets remember that this is by far a vast improvement to 21 W. North St.
> >>> where you'd arrive during the winter and its 35 degrees inside the space
> >>> and it would take the Perkins room hours to get to 60 degrees. The
> >>> thermostat could keep the new space at a low enough temp to save money
> >>> when
> >>> no one is there but not low enough to be unbearable when you arrive,
> >>> opening the space sets the temp to where our patrons will be warm and
> >>> comfortable and then back down again when its closed. This is of course
> >>> after we've patched all the places where we're losing tremendous amounts
> >>> of
> >>> heat. We also need to switch our gas utility bill to a budgeted plan
> >>> where
> >>> we pay the amount all year round to avoid HUGE winter usage bills.
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>> IMO heat being 50 is perfectly fine for working. If I am working on
> >>>> something less physical I might opt to turn on a space heater and heat
> >>>> my
> >>>> small area more. I know other would prefer warmer temps and that is
> >>>> fine.
> >>>> 
> >>>> A programmable thermostat set to run from 4 till 8 is SO much better
> >>>> than running it all the time.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The thing is as we build membership we WILL be running the heater more.
> >>>> Unfortunately we are heating empty spaces 16 hours a day. <insert sad
> >>>> panda>>>>> 
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Byron Moran 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>> The idea of a programmable thermostat is that it warms it up for you
> >>>>> before you arrive. Tying it into the open / closed sign is the
> >>>>> equivalent
> >>>>> of buying a remote start for your car and turning it on as soon as you
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> in the car. It's 15 degrees out, and it would be really frustrating to
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> to wait an hour every time you come in the space for it to be a
> >>>>> reasonable
> >>>>> temperature. I understand saving money, and something like a Nest will
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> that, but you have to expect some costs as far as heating, and be a
> >>>>> ble to
> >>>>> budget enough to keep your patrons warm and comfortable. Just an
> >>>>> outside
> >>>>> opinion.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Omar Rassi 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>>> Good catch Justin! I can see why those would be hard to spot.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I know there was some talk about having a programmable thermostat but
> >>>>>> realistically, keyholders come in and out at all random times and
> >>>>>> sometimes
> >>>>>> the open hours don't happen exactly on time or the person has a
> >>>>>> sudden
> >>>>>> thing come up so that would leak money at times too. Once we're
> >>>>>> settled in,
> >>>>>> a solution may be to tie the temperature setting to opening and
> >>>>>> closing the
> >>>>>> space so when you click on "open space" thermostat is set to X
> >>>>>> degrees.
> >>>>>> Click close space, it goes back down to X degrees
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Justin Herman 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hey folks,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I stopped in the new space to drop a few things off and I decided I
> >>>>>>> would check a few repairs out.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> First, The work that has been completed looks awesome. It is really
> >>>>>>> coming together. The team that preformed the move really got a lot
> >>>>>>> done.
> >>>>>>> Not enough thanks can be given to the people who have taken a blight
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> Summit St. and made it into a functional space.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Unfortunately I see a few issues (that may or may not be know to
> >>>>>>> all)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 1. The space is heated but it seemed warm. This is cool when hacking
> >>>>>>> is happening BUT expensive when it is not. We MUST work a plan
> >>>>>>> together to
> >>>>>>> deal with lowering the heat when the space is not occupied. (I did
> >>>>>>> not know
> >>>>>>> where the thermostat was to turn it down so I did not make any
> >>>>>>> actions for
> >>>>>>> this.)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 2. Above the back 40's heater is a GIANT HOLE. It appears to be a
> >>>>>>> vent hole and may already have a plan to be resolved BUT at the
> >>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>> moment $ is flowing out the space. As the heater runs heat flows out
> >>>>>>> and to
> >>>>>>> the ceiling and right next to the heater vent is this 8-12 inch
> >>>>>>> hole. This
> >>>>>>> must be fixed ASAP.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 3. The front garage door has large leaks of air. Replacement of the
> >>>>>>> door would be a more expensive project but buying weather trim and
> >>>>>>> putting
> >>>>>>> up a plastic door (similar to the common space-back 40) would help
> >>>>>>> considerably.)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 4. There are numerous holes in the mortar that need filled.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> When I was in the space previously I didn't see many of these issues
> >>>>>>> as it was dark outside but in the light of day they become VERY
> >>>>>>> clear.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I have an album of pictures in an album I hope these help to clear
> >>>>>>> things up.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> SynHak -
> >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bxw1KFspeHRrUHQzSFlfZ1Z1bzQ&;
> >>>>>>> usp=sharing
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Once again GREAT JOB!
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Much Love
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Byron D Moran
> >>>>> Software Development Consultant
> >>>>> (330)992-9766
> >>>>> 
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