On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:56:42 Omar Rassi wrote: > Good. > > I think the best solution concerning the thermostat at this time is to > simply turn the heat down if you're closing and then back up again when the > building is being occupied. There is no reason to turn it completely off > when no is there, we don't want things to freeze but we also don't want it > heated like someone's there when no one is there. Since there are no > regular hours at this time, a programmable thermostat is not a good > solution until regular hours start up again.
My regular hours haven't stopped. I've been at the space after 6pm all this week, but literally nobody has shown up. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I spoke with Devin yesterday and he let me know he is working on resolving > > the hole in the ceiling. > > > > The holes in the walls could be filled with a cement OR use some "great > > stuff" spray foam. I would think doing this before painting would help. > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Andrew Buczko <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yeah, like Omar said, I stopped in at the new space once and it felt warm > >> and that was with the thermostat all the down at 50 :) > >> > >> Devin might have some cement/motar stuff that you can use to seal those > >> cracks. > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Lets remember that this is by far a vast improvement to 21 W. North St. > >>> where you'd arrive during the winter and its 35 degrees inside the space > >>> and it would take the Perkins room hours to get to 60 degrees. The > >>> thermostat could keep the new space at a low enough temp to save money > >>> when > >>> no one is there but not low enough to be unbearable when you arrive, > >>> opening the space sets the temp to where our patrons will be warm and > >>> comfortable and then back down again when its closed. This is of course > >>> after we've patched all the places where we're losing tremendous amounts > >>> of > >>> heat. We also need to switch our gas utility bill to a budgeted plan > >>> where > >>> we pay the amount all year round to avoid HUGE winter usage bills. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> IMO heat being 50 is perfectly fine for working. If I am working on > >>>> something less physical I might opt to turn on a space heater and heat > >>>> my > >>>> small area more. I know other would prefer warmer temps and that is > >>>> fine. > >>>> > >>>> A programmable thermostat set to run from 4 till 8 is SO much better > >>>> than running it all the time. > >>>> > >>>> The thing is as we build membership we WILL be running the heater more. > >>>> Unfortunately we are heating empty spaces 16 hours a day. <insert sad > >>>> panda>>>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Byron Moran <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>> The idea of a programmable thermostat is that it warms it up for you > >>>>> before you arrive. Tying it into the open / closed sign is the > >>>>> equivalent > >>>>> of buying a remote start for your car and turning it on as soon as you > >>>>> get > >>>>> in the car. It's 15 degrees out, and it would be really frustrating to > >>>>> have > >>>>> to wait an hour every time you come in the space for it to be a > >>>>> reasonable > >>>>> temperature. I understand saving money, and something like a Nest will > >>>>> do > >>>>> that, but you have to expect some costs as far as heating, and be a > >>>>> ble to > >>>>> budget enough to keep your patrons warm and comfortable. Just an > >>>>> outside > >>>>> opinion. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>>> Good catch Justin! I can see why those would be hard to spot. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I know there was some talk about having a programmable thermostat but > >>>>>> realistically, keyholders come in and out at all random times and > >>>>>> sometimes > >>>>>> the open hours don't happen exactly on time or the person has a > >>>>>> sudden > >>>>>> thing come up so that would leak money at times too. Once we're > >>>>>> settled in, > >>>>>> a solution may be to tie the temperature setting to opening and > >>>>>> closing the > >>>>>> space so when you click on "open space" thermostat is set to X > >>>>>> degrees. > >>>>>> Click close space, it goes back down to X degrees > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>>>> Hey folks, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I stopped in the new space to drop a few things off and I decided I > >>>>>>> would check a few repairs out. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> First, The work that has been completed looks awesome. It is really > >>>>>>> coming together. The team that preformed the move really got a lot > >>>>>>> done. > >>>>>>> Not enough thanks can be given to the people who have taken a blight > >>>>>>> on > >>>>>>> Summit St. and made it into a functional space. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Unfortunately I see a few issues (that may or may not be know to > >>>>>>> all) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. The space is heated but it seemed warm. This is cool when hacking > >>>>>>> is happening BUT expensive when it is not. We MUST work a plan > >>>>>>> together to > >>>>>>> deal with lowering the heat when the space is not occupied. (I did > >>>>>>> not know > >>>>>>> where the thermostat was to turn it down so I did not make any > >>>>>>> actions for > >>>>>>> this.) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. Above the back 40's heater is a GIANT HOLE. It appears to be a > >>>>>>> vent hole and may already have a plan to be resolved BUT at the > >>>>>>> current > >>>>>>> moment $ is flowing out the space. As the heater runs heat flows out > >>>>>>> and to > >>>>>>> the ceiling and right next to the heater vent is this 8-12 inch > >>>>>>> hole. This > >>>>>>> must be fixed ASAP. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3. The front garage door has large leaks of air. Replacement of the > >>>>>>> door would be a more expensive project but buying weather trim and > >>>>>>> putting > >>>>>>> up a plastic door (similar to the common space-back 40) would help > >>>>>>> considerably.) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 4. There are numerous holes in the mortar that need filled. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When I was in the space previously I didn't see many of these issues > >>>>>>> as it was dark outside but in the light of day they become VERY > >>>>>>> clear. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have an album of pictures in an album I hope these help to clear > >>>>>>> things up. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SynHak - > >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bxw1KFspeHRrUHQzSFlfZ1Z1bzQ& > >>>>>>> usp=sharing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Once again GREAT JOB! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Much Love > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Justin > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Byron D Moran > >>>>> Software Development Consultant > >>>>> (330)992-9766 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
