BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode <ppatn...@gmail.com>wrote: > On the subject of working alone, being safe. > > I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, > working alone in his garage. > > The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn > near killed him. > > Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident > happened and cut off his right hand. > > He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. > > It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or > with somebody around. > > To each his own at SH, with variable risk. > > For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. > > PPP > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland <ch...@chrisegeland.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode >> <ppatn...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone >>> in the space, day or night. >>> >> I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to >> visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking >> you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to >> ensure your safety. However, the concept of "never allowing a single >> person alone in the space" defeats the purpose of the space. >> >>> >>> The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar >>> hoppers. >>> >> Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, >> falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we >> have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, >> rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that >> people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to >> engage in said activities. >> >> If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what >> are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? >> >>> >>> Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will >>> increase the level of safety for all involved. >>> >> It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of >> at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no >> one else is around for time to "decompress" and not deal with social >> interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 >> hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people >> be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed >> up for. >> >> Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is >> eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't find >> someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to >> go with you or meet you there, >> >>> >>> It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have >>> been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer >>> have a cellphone. >>> >> True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it is >> wise to employ the buddy system. However, making it a mandated requirement >> isn't a good idea. >> >>> >>> Also, add a *doorbell* >>> >> Work in progress >> >>> and a *peephole* to the entrance. >>> >> Does the 1'x1' glass pane already in the door not count as a peephole? >> >>> >>> Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they >>> on a timer or an auto-sensor? >>> >> They've been on for like 4 days straight. They are on a switch. We are >> discussing putting them onto a timer or photocell for purposes of not >> running lights during sunlight hours. >> >>> >>> Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because >>> I don't like visiting people in the hospital. >>> >>> PPP >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: >>>> > Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the >>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if >>>> you >>>> > see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not >>>> available >>>> > dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or >>>> Emergency >>>> > 911. >>>> > >>>> > *To request a safety escort:* >>>> > Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. >>>> > >>>> > *To request a battery jump:* >>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. >>>> > >>>> > *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* >>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: >>>> > http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf >>>> >>>> I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front >>>> door. >>>> >>>> I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l <leit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your >>>> > > surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the >>>> best >>>> > > way >>>> > > to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and >>>> you're >>>> > > alone >>>> > > at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is >>>> > > relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and >>>> feel >>>> > > uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very >>>> violent >>>> > > city. >>>> > > >>>> > > in excellence, >>>> > > Andrew L >>>> > > >>>> > > On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, "Andrew Buczko" <a4s...@dsprototyping.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >> Akron is a bad part of Akron. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Hopefully SynHak can make it better. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>>> > >> >>>> > >> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote: >>>> > >>> On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston < >>>> martinpinks...@gmail.com> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> wrote: >>>> > >>> > I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the >>>> local >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> foot traffic at Summit yet or not. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals >>>> walking a >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> "daily circuit" until the shelters open in the evening. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for >>>> > >>> danger. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times >>>> inside and >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> outside the building. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a >>>> box >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> cutter for self defense. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > Just my $.02 >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > Take Care & Have fun Always. >>>> > >>> > Martin Pinkston RN >>>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> > Discuss mailing list >>>> > >>> > Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >>> > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >> >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >
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