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On Friday, January 24, 2014 00:15:03 Omar Rassi wrote: > I'm sorry but are we're not 12 year olds coming to a hackersapce during the > wee hours? > > >SH is not a like a zoo > > We've had a live webcam running since before 21 W North street. Don't like > it? Cover it while you're at the space. > > >Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of > > people in residence > > The door is at an angle, you look through the window at a wall. > > >I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw > > Does this mean that everyone needs their hand held at Synhak? We have > safety equipment, required safety classes, liability waivers. What more is > necessary to let adults be responsible for themselves? > > >be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing > > outside > > I didn't realize there was a horde of the mentally unstable on its way to > Akron. > > Really guys? This discussion has gone to another level, I understand that > safety is paramount but its also sort of a given. Whether you're in > downtown Akron or in a gated community it doesn't matter, there are plenty > of ways and resources in Akron to stay safe and the responsibility is on > everyone to be safe, ultimately there is nothing Synhak Inc. or anyone else > can do to prevent every single possibility. Look out for eachother, > fostering a warm envirnoment and not one of fear, if you see a problem fix > it, be excellent to eachother. Humans will typically respond in kind, we > don't have to fortify Synhak because a few apples could maybe possibly > potentially be slightly or majorly bad. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]>wrote: > > Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more > > deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of > > the day and night. > > > > Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of > > people in residence and watching them go about their business. > > > > SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. > > > > IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]>wrote: > >> BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> On the subject of working alone, being safe. > >>> > >>> I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, > >>> working alone in his garage. > >>> > >>> The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn > >>> near killed him. > >>> > >>> Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident > >>> happened and cut off his right hand. > >>> > >>> He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. > >>> > >>> It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone > >>> or with somebody around. > >>> > >>> To each his own at SH, with variable risk. > >>> > >>> For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. > >>> > >>> PPP > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected] > >>>> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>>> In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever > >>>>> alone in the space, day or night. > >>>> > >>>> I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to > >>>> visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat > >>>> attacking > >>>> you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to > >>>> ensure your safety. However, the concept of "never allowing a single > >>>> person alone in the space" defeats the purpose of the space. > >>>> > >>>>> The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar > >>>>> hoppers. > >>>> > >>>> Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. > >>>> > >>>> Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent > >>>> risks. > >>>> While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous > >>>> as > >>>> > >>>> diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many > >>>> activities > >>>> that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the > >>>> space > >>>> to engage in said activities. > >>>> > >>>> If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, > >>>> what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? > >>>> > >>>>> Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will > >>>>> increase the level of safety for all involved. > >>>> > >>>> It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know > >>>> of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours > >>>> that no > >>>> one else is around for time to "decompress" and not deal with social > >>>> interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop > >>>> for 2 > >>>> hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two > >>>> people > >>>> be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally > >>>> signed > >>>> up for. > >>>> > >>>> Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is > >>>> eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't > >>>> find > >>>> someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone > >>>> to > >>>> go with you or meet you there, > >>>> > >>>>> It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have > >>>>> been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no > >>>>> longer > >>>>> have a cellphone. > >>>> > >>>> True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it > >>>> is wise to employ the buddy system. However, making it a mandated > >>>> requirement isn't a good idea. > >>>> > >>>>> Also, add a *doorbell* > >>>> > >>>> Work in progress > >>>> > >>>>> and a *peephole* to the entrance. > >>>> > >>>> Does the 1'x1' glass pane already in the door not count as a peephole? > >>>> > >>>>> Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are > >>>>> they on a timer or an auto-sensor? > >>>> > >>>> They've been on for like 4 days straight. They are on a switch. We > >>>> are discussing putting them onto a timer or photocell for purposes of > >>>> not > >>>> running lights during sunlight hours. > >>>> > >>>>> Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and > >>>>> because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. > >>>>> > >>>>> PPP > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer < > >>>>> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: > >>>>>> > Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use > >>>>>> > the > >>>>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also > >>>>>> > >>>>>> if you > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not > >>>>>> > >>>>>> available > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Emergency > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 911. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > *To request a safety escort:* > >>>>>> > Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > *To request a battery jump:* > >>>>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* > >>>>>> > Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail [email protected]. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: > >>>>>> > http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front > >>>>>> door. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > > It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your > >>>>>> > > surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location > >>>>>> > >>>>>> the best > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > way > >>>>>> > > to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> you're > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > alone > >>>>>> > > at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking > >>>>>> > >>>>>> is > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and feel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very > >>>>>> > >>>>>> violent > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > city. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > in excellence, > >>>>>> > > Andrew L > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, "Andrew Buczko" < > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >> Akron is a bad part of Akron. > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> Hopefully SynHak can make it better. > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer < > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>> On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston < > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>> > I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> local > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> foot traffic at Summit yet or not. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals > >>>>>> > >>>>>> walking a > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> "daily circuit" until the shelters open in the evening. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential > >>>>>> > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> danger. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times > >>>>>> > >>>>>> inside and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> outside the building. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least > >>>>>> > >>>>>> a box > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> cutter for self defense. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > Just my $.02 > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> ...and 21 W. 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