On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 01:10:49 Andrew Buczko wrote:
> What is AWS ? (Akron Waffle Supply)
> 
> * here is our current infrastructure:
> 
> ** Two t1.micro servers as web servers
> ** One t1.micro server as mail host
> ** One t1.micro MySQL RDS instance
> 
> *** current AWS bill: $81,88 /mo
> 
> 
> *Here is the new infrastucture:
> 
> ** 3 year heavy reservations for two t1.micro EC2 instances @ $200
> ** 1 year heavy reservation for one m1.small EC2 instance @ $169
> ** 3 year heavy reservation for one m1.small EC2 instance @ $257
> ** 3 year heavy reservation for one m1.small MySQL RDS instance @ $257.00
> 
> *** Total upfront cost: $883.00
> *** Estimated monthly cost to run synhak.org: $83.52
> 
> This sounds great.
> 
> 1> Um, according to your figures, the new infrastructure will cost $1.64
> more per month than the old one, Where do you get a savings of $123.10?

Reserved instances vs non-reserved.

> 
> 2> Is it what we need? What do the logs show as far as load's on the
> current servers?

I believe it is. I'll produce a more technical report on our growth and usage.

> 
> 3> Can we get smaller servers and save even more money?

The infrastructure I proposed could get smaller by one server at an 
unconscionable cost of reliability. I'm not in favor of it.

> 
> This is an operating expense and does not fall under the grant that we just
> got.

Technically, except it furthers our mission of providing infrastructure to 
hackers. The wiki and mailing lists are essential tools to enable others to do 
things. We provide those as services to the public for the benefit of the 
public.

> 
> Andy
> 
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Torrie Fischer 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:38:58 Justin Herman wrote:
> > > I think an evaluation of several hosting options and establishing the
> > > infrastructure needs be done, before we earmark funds and make any plan
> > > changes.
> > 
> > I didn't say any funds were being earmarked. I'm not evaluating other
> > hosting
> > options because I'm the one doing the work and would very much rather not
> > migrate synhak.org to another provider when I've already poured a
> > significant
> > quantity of effort and time into the current setup.
> > 
> > > I am concerned with how much horse power & cost has been amassed even
> > 
> > after
> > 
> > > we have achieved a 501c3 status.
> > 
> > Please elaborate.
> > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Torrie Fischer
> > > 
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > Hi, all.
> > > > 
> > > > Something I've wanted to do for quite some time is invest in some
> > 
> > reserved
> > 
> > > > AWS
> > > > instances for synhak.org to reduce our monthly bill. The problem with
> > > > that is
> > > > paying the high up-front cost. Since we now have this $15k grant, I'd
> > 
> > like
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > use a small portion of it to build what I consider an ideal synhak.org
> > > > infrastructure:
> > > > 
> > > > * 3 year heavy reservations for two t1.micro EC2 instances @ $200
> > > > * 1 year heavy reservation for one m1.small EC2 instance @ $169
> > > > * 3 year heavy reservation for one m1.small EC2 instance @ $257
> > > > * 3 year heavy reservation for one m1.small MySQL RDS instance @
> > 
> > $257.00
> > 
> > > > Total upfront cost: $883.00
> > > > Estimated monthly cost to run synhak.org: $83.52
> > > > Estimated cost without reservations: $206.62
> > > > 
> > > > Monthly savings: $123.10
> > > > Yearly savings: $1447.20
> > > > 
> > > > One year commitment: $1002.24, approximately 14% of our 2013
> > > > membership
> > > > dues
> > > > income.
> > > > Three year commitment: $3006.72, approximately 8% of projected three
> > 
> > year
> > 
> > > > income of $36,000.
> > > > 
> > > > Our member dues already handily cover all our other bills.
> > 
> > > > Here's my sources on the AWS calculator:
> > http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html#r=IAD&key=calc-E7EBCA4F-D171
> > 
> > > > -416F-AB21-D1CFE82DE07B
> > > > 
> > > > The two micros will be used as edge webservers to host the wiki and
> > 
> > spiff.
> > 
> > > > The one year small will be a general purpose shell, phong, logging,
> > > > and
> > > > event
> > > > processing server
> > > > The three year small will be a dedicated mailing list server
> > > > 
> > > > I'm suggesting a one year reservation to avoid getting ourselves
> > > > locked
> > > > into a
> > > > situation of needing more horsepower for administrivia but not able to
> > > > spend
> > > > more than $85/mo. I don't envision our mailing list server
> > > > requirements
> > > > growing beyond an m1.small instance within the next three years,
> > 
> > provided
> > 
> > > > it
> > > > remains dedicated to just mail.
> > > > 
> > > > Our current AWS bill is $81.88/mo due to free tier expiring a few
> > 
> > months
> > 
> > > > ago.
> > > > This investment will keep our monthly infrastructure bill roughly the
> > 
> > same
> > 
> > > > while at the same time giving us a *lot* more room to grow for that
> > 
> > same
> > 
> > > > price. For comparison, here is our current infrastructure:
> > > > 
> > > > * Two t1.micro servers as web servers
> > > > * One t1.micro server as mail host
> > > > * One t1.micro MySQL RDS instance
> > > > 
> > > > The following benefits will be realized with this $883 investment:
> > > > 
> > > > * Faster performance on mediawiki, spiff, and other applications
> > > > * Less resource contention when mailman, postfix, phong, and document
> > > > rebuilding aren't all competing for the same pittance of CPU and
> > > > memory
> > > > * Tighter security by establishing a bastion host setup resulting in
> > > > exactly
> > > > two public endpoints for synhak.org
> > > > * Room for growth in website activity and services offered
> > > > * Significant cost reduction in critical infrastructure will be
> > > > secured
> > > > for
> > > > three years
> > > > * We would have a really cool playground for devops hackers
> > > > * Current $80/mo AWS budget could be reallocated towards the
> > 
> > maintenance
> > 
> > > > budget or funneled into a monthly Hacker Grant program.
> > > > 
> > > > I would appreciate any feedback on this idea.
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > 
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