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= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve Radonich IV
== Introduction and Names ==
Chris - Do things
Mark Howard - Systems engineer IT dept. learning 3D printing, restore cars
Heard about us through brother in-law
Andy - Do electronics
Mike - tech support
Chris N. & Aubrey - break things
Devin - fix his broken things
Steve - take notes
Will - play with numbers
Craig - play with letters
Justin - sysadmin
AJ9 - help other people express themselves
Alex - eats stew
Becca - Forgets to make bread
Matt - independent IT consultant, curry hacker
Xander - dissappear
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
Chris - Yesterday I resigned as champion so don't come to me with problems
anymore
Craig - Oddmall 10 May
Alex - Derbycon, already got tickets
Devin - I am now interim treasurer, and have help from the group
Matt - Apartment across the hall from me is available
Becca - Still collecting old t-shirts, they will be destroyed and made into
something new
Alex - Sundown rundown is May 15, I'm actually going to do a talk there
G - National day of civic hacking, not planned for Akron yet but
gsvolt.wordpress.com call for help, May 31 - June 1 Knight Foundation wants to
know if SYNHAK has something we'd want to do.
G - Next akron linux user group meeting is an important one, maintainer of bash
is going to be there giving a speech, I'm commiting to schedule language
meetings, for those who want to learn or share information. June 5th
Justin - Cleveland B-sides July 19th
== Membership ==
Anna-Jeannine Herman
Why: REALLY, REALLY LONG
Sponsors: Rebecca Salchak
Andy Buczko
Craig - About Time
Devin - Mention Torchbearer's?
AJ9 - I'm a torchbearer :D Created to attract and retain young professionals in
Akron
Name: Will Schaffer
Why: Have a voice and be a tangible part of SYNHAK's future, also be eligible
to hold a key.
Sponsors: Becca Salchak
Omar Rassi
Becca - What makes you happy?
Will - Summer, excited to be done with school. Playing with computers, need to
be around people that actually know about computers.
Craig - Dog or Cat?
Will - Cat in the winter, dog summer
Mike - are you of drinking age?
Will - No.
Alex - What do you want synhak to do for you?
Will - Mostly the infrastructure, and a knowledge resource
Chris - What's your favorite beer?
Will - rootbeer
Becca - Whats your favorite dessert?
Will - Ice cream
Justin - What do you think you could help teach us?
Will - Taking digital logic design, so I know a lot. Would love to teach stuff
about that
Mike - Interested in applying for a key, whats the biggest thing that would
facilitate for you?
Will - Closed a lot, would like to open it more
Steve - Sega or Nintendo?
Will - When I was 5 the only thing we had was Sega
Andy - AMD or Intel
Will - Intel
Alex - Get more into computers, specific thing?
Will - Programming
Mark - What type of programming?
Will - Working for NSA, so cryptographic
Xander - If there is something going on at synhak and you want to make a change
in policy how would you go about that?
Will - Put it on discuss first then bring it up at the meeting.
Voted in! Will has been approved!
== Financial Report ==
In bank: savings: $11,805.00
checking: $3,827.57
== Proposals ==
Alex - Old one I had in there about once a month Hack-a-thon
I propose a Monthly HackaThon. Make a dedicated day, once every month. I
recommend the first Friday After 5PM and can carry over to Saturday depending
on the project.
Projects can range from, but not limited to;
Building something unique for the space. Projects that person wants to create,
but wants expertise he/she does not have. A project for the community.
A requirement for this project to happen, is that the idea has to be propose in
the weekly meeting. Then agreed after the next meeting with at minimal 3 people
to partake in it. The proposal for the weekly meeting does not have to be in
person.
Craig - Why does this have to be a proposal?
Alex - It's a motivator to get more hacking going on
AJ9 - peope who aren't a member could see when they could be involed in a
project
Xander - My understanding is that any member could do with when they wanted.
Alex - Yea
G - have a meetup/wiki page for a community project.
Xander - last year we did a wiki for summit county, we also did the mapping for
all the parks in the area
Justin - I think it's a great idea, and would like more support behind it.
Although we have mechanisms to do this but voting on it would look good to the
community comitting ourselves to making this happen.
Matt - Love the idea, but does it need to be an official thing. Do a dry run
the revisit it later.
Alex - kinda like speakers doesn't need done every month or so but would be on
the books.
Becca - I think at first do we really need to make it set in stone, but after
thought I think it might be a good idea to make it the first weekend of the
month then it would coincide with the akron art walk.
Xander - thinking I'm hearing a consensus that everyone likes the idea but do
we need to make it a proposal.
Andy - I think the proposal comes where we could help the activity with
supplies and stuff. Might help with any costs in advertising.
Xander - Concerns I have is who is going to be the maintainer would you do it,
Alex?
Alex - sure
Justin - make motion to propose a vote
Xander - Me too
It passes
Alex - For AWS access, me, craig and Justin should have it.
It passes
== Discussion Items ==
Andy - Soapbox derby is going on, do we want to sponsor somebody?
Becca - Is there someone who needs sponsorship?
Andy - never done it before, so you help by the car, and help pay to have it
shipped here from where they come from?
Becca - Maybe Rob could do it if we built our own car, and sponsor him.
Andy - Call them and get someone.
Jusitn - Cool idea, if you're willing to do some more research into this.
Unfortunately I don't think it's something we should get into now without full
financial records.
Alex - We could use the grant money
Andy - Yes
Xander - Get a hold of Andy if you want to get involved in this.
Justin - Is there anyway we could come to a time period for how long we are
going to talk about this so it doesn't go one for a long period of time?
Xander - I have no opinion of this so I'm going to keep things from getting out
of hand.
Discussion of the proposal to remove Torrie from SYNHAK
Justin - I've had personal conflicts with Torrie in the past, and we've not
seen eye to eye. I do think the appropriate action is a period of time hiatus,
but I don't like seeing anyone going away.
Andy - I see her being very threatening, and seen this action before, and could
see it happeninng here, feels she should be punished someway.
G - I said it before and I'll say it agian, I love everybody, sometimes there
are heated discussions, but most of these things have communication gaps at
their core. Over time they will hopefully be healed, and they should work it
out.
Andy - I don't really agree with that, I see her making false claims, and
making all of these statements online, and feel it's just a ploy to cause other
problems. Could see her putting restraining orders based on false claims and
it's becoming a pattern.
Justin - i have to agree with andy
Chris - Just on the point of restraining orders, you're the only person that
ever said anything about a restraining order. I've been tlaking to Torrie on a
personal level and it's never brought up. Steve when you proposed this are you
familiar with the process? We just had a meeting yesterday. Is that enough of a
punishment?
Steve - First, the her being removed as treasurer only addresses her as
treasurer, this is to address her as a member and the issue of her behavior.
AJ9 - Talk for yourself not for others.
Justin - Agrees, feels attacked, defamation of character, even in discussion
forums and elswhere. Discussed him as being unethical/unprofessional.
Andy - Thirty different people asked what's going on in discuss list.
Justin - When she went on hiatus, everything quieted down
AJ9 - She applied for membership at this time for specifc reasons. Others may
be turned away because of those in organization.
Steve- We need to address this. Maybe put her on suspension? Cant ignore the
fact that she is "unexcellent". I'm not going to get over it. She's acting this
way and it needs to be addressed.
Justin - I'd love to see her change, but people don't. She's been unaplogetic.
If you do something wrong; you recognize that. Not seen in this individual.
Matt - Torrie is my friend. I care about her and you guys. I can't help agree
that Torrie needs to step back for a time. She's been under a lot of stress
that could be leading to some less-than-excellent behavior. Let's try not to be
unexcellent because someone else is.
Craig - I think it's too early for any proposal and things are too heated.
Alex - Seconds what Craig says. Give her some perspective.
Mike - I don't think any of this is punishment. It is a reaction in attempt to
deal with this. Trying not to facillitate this behavior in the future.
Consequences for actions.
Becca - Concept of her not being thrown out; what do we feel IS the right
amount of time. She's already been hiatus. What's the number?
Xander - Sees consensus as a short period of time ban.
AJ9 - perhaps might be appropriate in the future to pursue membership in the
future. Torrie not being her implies lack of interest.
Xander - Just because she isn't here doesn't mean she doesn't care. A lot of us
can't realize how difficult it is when you started an organization. I helped
write the bylaws and it was difficult for me. I also didn't feel safe here. I
know you all took offense to comments about you saying "transphobic remarks".
I've seen written words about un-education about being transphobic. I'd never
accuse anyone of that. A little education goes a long way for LGBT-phobe.
Becca - If someone comes into the space being a transphobe, we wouldnt know.
The only way someone would be stopped from being a member is because of
transphobic comments. Most people would block that person from becoming a
member. Steve is NOT transphobic. I was the LGBT President at UA. Steve is very
educated on transgendering. She was calling him a transphoe because of the way
of a room. He has always used her preffered gender pronoun. Recently, she has
been shoving it down our throats.
Xander - Her birth name is NOT her legal name anymore.
AJ9 - I have never been aware Torrie was another gender. Torrie has
communications problems some times. Everyone needs to cool off. I don't think
that anyone accusses me of being transphobic, but I think the way she's acting
is nice. A group pursuing equal rights does not make being a jerk OK. If Synhak
needs to do better concerning LGBT, we should pursue that, not sure if LGBT
education is intertwined with transphobic - ism.
Justin - Defaming a person is what I feel has been done. Title has been put out
there not accurate. Difference between ignorant person and someone trying to
offend. Say if you have an issue with a member.
Xander - We all agree Torrie hasn't handled problems correctly. Perhaps CWG
could have helped with problems. Maybe CWG can do a lot to prevent expelling a
member.
Matt - You specifically said "Torrie(her original name)" in an email. Explain
why you did that.
Andy - I said it because I was not sure if she has leagally changed her name.
Dave - In no way did I know about her gender. When she said "I use the
female..." She got apprehensive and mad and I understand. I have friends in
both communities but she handled it the wrong way by not handling it in the
family. It should be handled inside the family. Do not take issues to a public
forum. "Airing out the dirty laundry". I feel that not revocation but AT LEAST
90 days suspension of priveleges would be appropriate.
Xander - Have been talking for 30 minutes. We are talking in circles. Does not
want to revoke membership permanently. Think of appropiate timeframe for
proposal for this. Point of membership voting is because membership should
agree before the board executes the plan. If the board removed a member before
we voted, I would be upset.
Devin - We have a shorted of champions but must have 2-4. Follow the template
used in January? How long should it last? Nominations for Champion. Do we want
membership to vote and then board approves it.
Justin - Yes, I like this idea.
Devin - I'm hoping to act as interim treasurer but there is talk of someone to
take over. We are not satisfying our bylaws by having too few champions.
Chris - All officers can appoint subordiante officers.
Devin - Now is the time to vote for Champions.
Matt - Volunteers to be a champion.
Mike - Wants to nominate Chris E.
Chris - Refuses to hold a position until CWG establoished.
Justin - Volunteers to be a Champion.
Devin - Seconds this.
Xander - Champions are the representative to the public.
Craig - nominates himself
Devin - Seconds this.
Becca - Nominates Steve
Devin - Seconds this
Mike - thirded
Justin - Fourthed
Justin - Motion to close.
Devin - Seconds it
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