I have worked with fusebox and mach-ii. Fusebox was good, but mach-ii makes sense to me. I started my development work in C++ and a pure OO environment. It's a pretty simple rule: Display logic only in the view, the controller (listeners) controls flow between the model (base objects & dao) and the views. The events in mach-ii are your interface from the view to the controller.
Confusing to most, but it makes sense to me. I like mach-ii. ap -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of neville bent Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:55 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks Hi MCG, I don't often like to comment on this sort of thing but... My comments are only about "easy to learn" aspects of frameworks within my experience. My CF experience: Nearly 6 years now Fusebox 3 - simple Fusebox 4 + MVC - Love it Mach-ii - I still don't get it after a whole year... The Mach-ii list I found to be very unhelpful, in fact downright rude... I'm so tired of reading documentation that was written in Martian... and comments in the same aforementioned language. Whereas the FB 3 & 4 lists were and are a real community effort if not fragmented Mach-ii is not easy to learn. We are a team of 6 developers, 2 of whom grasp it quite well, one knows what to do with uncertainty, and the other 3 (including me), have to ask all the time. And I concur with other comments. Architecture decisions are very important. I've seen some nasty FB 4 (& 3) code written around less than well thought out architecture. my .02 cents >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: discussion@acfug.org >To: discussion@acfug.org >Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks >Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:45:00 -0400 > >Thanks everyone for all the links. And I thought I would be bored this >weekend, lol. Seems like the consensus is that Model Glue is the framework >of choice these days. Any votes/biases for anything else? mcg > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ----- > >To: discussion@acfug.org >From: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: 06/09/2006 03:28PM >Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks > >MCG - > >There's a pretty good quickstart guide for MG >http://www.model-glue.org/quickstart/index.html > >If you have an hour or so to sit down and go through the guide, you >should have a feel for whether or not it's suitable for your >development team's skill set. It does have a lower learning curve >than Mach-II, and seems to have a very good balance of features. > >-Cameron > >On 6/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How quickly do you see team members with little OO experience picking >this > > up (MG is OO only, correct?)? > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > >For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > >For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------