Well, the problem is that it's hard to cover "getting started with CFBuilder" in just an hour.
For instance, - there's one talk that could be for those coming from CFEclipse (what's different between those), - then there's an entirely other talk for those coming from DW/HomeSite/CFStudio (which has to include introducing Eclipse). - Even then, trying to cover that audience would take more than an hour (because you still need to tell them what's unique about CFB, separate from Eclipse itself.) - Then there's still another talk on the ins and outs of challenges people can face (like that which Sean raised, and there are many more.) Because of this, I've instead decided to create online classes on these things. First up will be a daylong class, oriented toward that audience of folks coming from non-Eclipse editors, and it will cover three broad areas: the least you need to know about Eclipse, the fundamental editing features of CFBuilder, and other features of CFBuilder (like the debugger, the extensions support, the server management, etc.) Even covering that last section briefly, the rest fits nicely into a day. I'll be offering it at CFUnited (as a daylong class on Tuesday) and then I'll be offering it as an online class after the conference. I then plan to create a still different class, perhaps half-day, oriented instead toward that audience of people coming from Eclipse who want to explore what's different. That's a very different audience (and most won't bother be interested in a class anyway, I suspect, but I'll offer it in case there are any takers.) Over time I plan to create yet other half-day classes each to get into details of things like using the debugger (more than meets the eye), creating extensions (quite an expansive topic also), solving problems with configuration of the managed servers and RDS setup, and so on. But sure, along the way (as I build these and once I do), I can see creating one-hour versions to offer as user groups that touch on some of the key points of each subject. Until then, I'm sure someone else will probably step up to do the same. I don't begrudge them that. I just think we have to be really careful about the audiences for these talks. It's kind of like having a talk on frameworks: do you assume the audience already uses one or not? Is the talk about one framework? Can you assume they already understand design patterns? Use CFCs? Etc. These things often make it hard for some topics to be covered in any one hour-long session. :-) Don't know if you (or others here) were looking for all that, but it came to mind. :-) /charlie From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder So, I'm wishing I was presenting "Using That Shiny New Coldfusion Builder", but alas I'm not. I see a good topic for someone to step up and present on here. Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charlie Arehart <[email protected]> wrote: Hey Sean, that wouldn't be a problem with the RDS implementation. That would be with the aspect of adding a server to be managed from within CFB. I do so lament that they have gone this way of kind of forcing people into thinking that they need to "add their server" to CFB, and that they need to install the "admin instance" to a server to be "used with CFB". <snip> ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
