'sharrison' = 'Sean Harrison'. :)

Glad this list is still around!

-S

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Peyton Todd <peytont...@att.net> wrote:

> First, my thanks to everyone for the help so far...
>
> Your answers have shown me that attempts to suppress the location bar in
> HTML windows, even when feasible, are swimming upstream against a strong
> current, so are best avoided.
>
> The 'brainjar' code suggested by sharrison (Steve? Sam?) works
> beautifully!  Just about all I had to do was download the GIF images for
> the window buttons, and put a <video> tag containing one of my videos
> inside the 'client area' of one of the windows. If you'd like to see it,
> download the folder at the Dropbox link below and run vindemo.html. Then
> click on Window 1, which is where I put my <video> tag.
>
> Vindemo
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2b643nmwt8hv2rd/AAA7pzIKNTTnr8jhnfSqYbjLa?dl=0>
>
>
> [image: image]
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2b643nmwt8hv2rd/AAA7pzIKNTTnr8jhnfSqYbjLa?dl=0>
>
>
>
>
>
> Vindemo
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2b643nmwt8hv2rd/AAA7pzIKNTTnr8jhnfSqYbjLa?dl=0>
> Shared with Dropbox
> View on www.dropbox.com
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2b643nmwt8hv2rd/AAA7pzIKNTTnr8jhnfSqYbjLa?dl=0>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
> Getting all my little icons and descriptions to take the place of the
> existing "Window 1 - Window 2 - Window 3" interface may be a fairly big
> job, though, since they vary a lot in which icons and how many, and in
> various font changes within the descriptions. So I'll be looking into ways
> to streamline it.
>
> I'll also look into "dialogs" as an alternative.
>
> On balance, though, although I like the look of this HTML+Javascript
> interface much better than the one using PDFs (which overwrites my
> sub-titles among other problems), I have hundreds of these little documents
> to prepare, and if I cannot streamline the process just mentioned, I may
> have to go with the PDF approach after all, since it will combine the
> WYSIWYG capabilities of Microsoft Word and Adobe Acrobat to make each one
> go much quicker.
>
> So I'll be looking into the 'security hole' issue I described earlier. As
> to that, Dawn, the problem is not so much with Acrobat itself as with
> Acrobat *Reader*, since that's what would play the media for end users.
> Adobe has already pulled the rug out from under me once due to security
> considerations (the dangers of legacy media). It's not that I need the
> media to be file-type agnostic for its own sake, but rather that the
> strange restriction of choices presented by the Sound Tool vs. Button
> interfaces are a red flag suggesting that the current capacities my not
> last forever. To repeat: even though PDFs will be around forever, that
> doesn't mean that what Adobe permits one to do with them will be - as my
> earlier experience has painfully showed me!
>
> I'll let you know how it works out.
>
> Peyton
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Arun Nallan <arun.nal...@gmail.com>
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org; Peyton Todd <peytont...@att.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 10:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Can I Remove the URL from Child Windows?
>
> Peyton,
>
> Don't think these days there is a way to do that. Due to security, they
> had disabled it.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15926105/hiding-the-
> address-bar-of-a-browser  has answered it
>
> Unfortunately, you have to rely on JavaScript/ CSS way of managing the DIV
> tags hide/ show --> Also, may have to make an AJAX call to the video HTML
> and render the response in the DIV.  But this is not the way you want the
> solution to be - Not sure what other workarounds are available.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Arun Nallan
>
>
> 409 363 0587
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Peyton Todd <peytont...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I, too, am glad to know this list still exists, since I have a question.
> To identify myself briefly, I’m a former member of the group, now retired,
> so I no longer write Cold Fusion code. My question concerns a research
> project that I presented to the group a few years ago, when members were
> asked to describe their work regardless of its relevance to Cold Fusion.
> The project is about the speech of a hearing child of deaf parents, and I’m
> hoping one of you with knowledge of HTML and Javascript can help me choose
> between two ways of presenting the data.
>
> I apologize for the great detail of this post, but I can get to my
> question right away before going into all that detail:
>
> *Does anyone know how to make the URL disappear in a child HTML window? If
> not, then is there some other simple way to get the effect I want?*
>
> Apparently the standard way would have been to set location=no when
> specifying the parameters to the window.open command. But that doesn’t
> work, and I remember reading somewhere that the W3C has decided to disable
> it. Is there some other way to make the URL disappear? Or maybe an
> alternate way to get a child window? (I thought of having DIVs that are set
> display=block or display=none, but apparently the user would not be able to
> move them around on the screen (No doubt it could be done via buttons that
> reset their left and top properties, but that would not be simple to
> program, and I need the ability for multiple windows to be open at the same
> time, which would make it even more complicated.)
>
> Admittedly this has only to do with aesthetics, but I want it to be as
> pretty as possible!
>
> To see what I have so far, please download the little folder at the
> Dropbox link below, and click on “testvideotag.htm” to test it. (It works
> in chrome, firefox, opera, and safari, but not in internet  explorer.)
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ x8guh0m7ll5hrr8/ AAAJkZjCRKMv7XSKrL2SGF7sa?dl=0
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x8guh0m7ll5hrr8/AAAJkZjCRKMv7XSKrL2SGF7sa?dl=0>
>
> The other approach I’m investigating may not tap the expertise of most
> ACFUG participants, but I’ll present it in case anyone has a suggestion. It
> uses PDFs, and if you want to see what it looks like you could download the
> little PDF at this other Dropbox link and run it (“PDF Version.pdf”):
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ 9ghu3l5fkfj2t7i/PDF%20Version. pdf?dl=0
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ghu3l5fkfj2t7i/PDF%20Version.pdf?dl=0>
>
> The PDF version  doesn’t display the ugly URL, of course, but my fear is
> that Adobe will disable my PDF solution some day – a matter I’ll probably
> have to check with Acrobat experts about, but in case anyone has ideas
> about it please let me know.
>
> When I describe my PDF solution, you’ll see why I fear Adobe will disable
> it: I like my interface the way it is: little icons that don’t take up
> screen space the way opening video inside the page would (there will be
> many hundreds of these!). And I like my audio icons the way I have them,
> too. If I attach MP3 (i.e. H264) audio to an icon via the sound tool (as in
> the leftmost ‘speaker’ icon in my PDF), it plays, but then the standard
> Acrobat audio interfaces jumps in and takes over the icon – too small to be
> operative.
>
> If I attach the audio it to a button-icon instead, then everything works
> perfectly (as in the rightmost ‘speaker’ icon). But here’s what makes me
> think Abobe would some day pull the rug out from under me: with the sound
> tool, one is forced to use H.264 (a WAV file is legacy, and leads to the
> ‘Do you trust this?’ warning – painful when one must open hundreds of these
> little PDFs. And the legacy method is now blocked over the internet
> anyway).
>
> But if I attach sound to a button, only WAV files seem available as a
> choice. Remarkably, MP3s are not available for choosing even though they’re
> in the same folder as the WAV file. So if WAV files are a security hole
> when using the sound tool (forcing one to use H/264 like MP3), why would
> they not be when attached to a button? And if they are, then Adobe will
> discover the problem and fix it some day, thus disabling the many hundreds
> of PDFs I will have prepared by then!
>
> I should mention that I have Acrobat 9 Pro Extended, from which no upgrade
> path is available. To buy a new Acrobat Pro DC costs $449.
>
> Thanks so much for any help you can provide!
>
>
>
>
>

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