don't leave http://kevinlangdon.com/serviceCapture/ out of this!  :)  You
can actually repeat requests and save results with latest versions of
Service Capture.

Also note, these are not AMF specific either, You can introspect ANY
traffic.  Sniff what your XML response really looks like before Flex gets it
for example.

Douglas Knudsen
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, eric decoff <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks John,
>
>     I will add this information to my growing arsenal
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, John Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yep, so AMF is the serialization protocol so you'll find it in several
>> messaging patterns get/post, remoting objects, messaging and streaming. As a
>> flex developer, you will usually always want to use AMF for performance
>> (bare in mind it does nothing for security). James Ward has a benchmark app
>> to better explain the performance of the various protocols such as SOAP,
>> AMF, JSON, etc. It's at http://www.jamesward.com/census/
>>
>> So normally you can hook your browser to Charles so you can read the AMF
>> packets from a flash or flex app. The problem with AIR is that it's a
>> standalone app which isn't contain inside of a browser. On windows you
>> simply hook Charles to the network monitoring service, and Linux will be
>> something similar.
>>
>> John
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I see. Charles lets you parse the AMF packets details.  AMF still
>>> does Get/Post from what I understand. But data is in a bandwidth saving
>>> binary protocol.
>>>
>>> However explain the following quote
>>>
>>>
>>> * In my situation, I'm using Charles with normal flex development, but *
>>> with this AIR project I have to figure out how to hook it up to the OS *
>>> level network system.
>>>
>>> I've never done AIR before but I assume it is the difference between
>>> developing Java apps versus Java applets. However what I dont understand
>>> what do you mean by the 'OS level network system' and how is that different
>>> from using Flex's equivalent.
>>>
>>> In Flex I have a Flex/Rails project that originally used Soap. Now we use
>>> AMF and when talking to legacy (pre web) server apps we use Binary Sockets.
>>>
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