|| On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:55:41 +0100 (CET) || "Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ams> Then the only right thing to do is to not recommend any device, That is why no device is being recommended. As was pointed out by others before, this part of the raffle is about giving developers access to hardware that is coming closest to our goals and thus give them the best start in making them entirely free. ams> When the GNU project was started, there was no free software; ams> one had no choice other than non-free sofyware. Today we have ams> all the tools needed to reject all non-free software. For desktops that is true. For mobile devices it is unfortunately not yet true and requires more work by the Free Software community. ams> Debian is also a bad example, [...] Please read my previous mail again. Your criticism is precisely why Debian is a good example. Without Debian there would have been no Ubuntu, and without Ubuntu there would be no Gnewsense. And Gnewsense itself helped influence others to think about providing pure Free Software distributions. ams> We need to build a stronger presence of the Free Software ams> community in this area. ams> And this is by distributing devices that contain `almost ams> entirely Free Software'? Without access to Ubuntu, Gnewsense would not exist. In the case of Ubuntu, the distribution was available without cost on the internet. That is not true for hardware. But if someone had told me that they wanted to create Gnewsense and they needed access to Ubuntu to do that job, I would indeed have sent them a DVD. Regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Free Software Foundation Europe (http://fsfeurope.org) Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://www.fsfe.org) What everyone should know about DRM (http://DRM.info)
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