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Interesting vision Xavier, me i do not have the skill and the time to reinvent the wheel again, moreover the Linux history have plenty of project graves started by people alone or with few friends... I strongly believe that the union make the force of men...but honestly start a new orientation now to go to another distribution will kill the project surely. > The question is not others don't help because they don't want or > they just want to use and not to give back money. I do not care of money, but we have to pay every month a nice piece of bucks for the hosting and we are not assured that donation can cover this amount. But i do not talk of money here i'm talking of my work, my contribs, my hours spent to read code or to rewrite old lines of Perl. I have never said that i want the contribs repository will be a paid area, i'm just thinking how to simply users or power users can give back the most important things in a project : Free Time, Free work... I understand that you have a work, with customers to satisfy, but we have all priorities to satisfy, so move on. Au plaisir de te Lire. - -- Cordialement Stéphane de Labrusse Membre de l'Aru2L http://www.aru2L.org Membre de l'ApriL http://www.apriL.org PORTABLE : 06 29 19 12 99 DOMICILE : 05 65 78 90 72 WEB : http://geekeries.de-labrusse.fr Le 16/01/2014 17:36, Xavier ANSOULT a écrit : > hi steph and others > > Why not, but well i will stop to help and to share if we go in > this direction ! because i m alone and i work a lot and i spent a > lot of time on a lot of others projects :-) > > I use freebsd, openbsd, Freenas, Nas4free, Debian, CentOS, SME > Server and a lot of free and open project, i can't share much my > time because i need to find customers for my work. > > The question is not others don't help because they don't want or > they just want to use and not to give back money. > > The question is : SME Server with CentOS as background, is it the > solution for the future? where are the statistics of donwload, > where are the statistic of visitors on the web sites? > > I asked for statistic because i need to use my time with efficiency > and not just for pleasure to be a geek > > My customers want all SaaS and Cloud, they don't want anymore Small > and Medium Enterprise Server solution or appliance ! > > It is not only the problem of SME it s the problem for all this > type of solution . > > As teacher, i used to work with students on e-smith and smeserver, > that was very good for teaching Perl but now as freelance my > customers just want solution with no pain and with no hardware ! > > The SME community is what it is because may-be it's time to have a > real strategic orientation, and may be it's time to leave CentOS to > join Debian or Ubuntu server team for example ! > > If to be in the SME Server community must become a pain with no > gain, i will leave definitively for Debian and i will try to port > the Perl template mecanism in it ! > > Regards, > > Xavier aka kid of leognan- ------- Message initial -------- *De*: > stephane de Labrusse <[email protected] > <mailto:stephane%20de%20labrusse%20%[email protected]%3e>> > *À*: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> *Sujet*: [discussion] Find > new people for bugzilla, this has to change. *Date*: Thu, 16 Jan > 2014 13:26:46 +0100 > > Ola > > Thinking a bit how to find new people in bugzilla as i see that we > are all the same guys in it, i'm wondering if i could invent the > principle of "work-ware" > > the principle of "work-ware" is you have to do something for the > project if you want to download my contribs. Of course i'm talking > about my work (automysqlbackup, phpvirtualbox, roundcube, > dhcpmanager...) > > If i say that it is a simple thought, we need people, they don't > want to pay, they don't want to work, and we are lacking guys....me > i do not need money, my day work is sufficient, i simply need time > to give more features to the project, and now i should help the > BugTeam in the core development since nobody or really tiny people > are verified bugs. > > It is a pleasure to go there because the BugTeam has made the > 'junior' (baby) developer i'm (in 6 month)...but i think we can > push people to do something mainly we are not talking to propose > patch or to develop perl module. No, we are ONLY talking to start a > VM, read a changelog, understand what is occurring, and write > outputs following a template...Easy. > > I believe that i can either make a repository with access > credentials or send by emails rpm to people who have verified X > numbers of bugs, or helped people in the forum, or written > documentation.... > > Nothing is free in this world, even the work of your neighbours, so > if SME Server users do not want to understand it, maybe we can take > a way to say to them : This has to change....or it is over :) > > Probably to do this i will have to let the src.rpm in free download > area if i want to conform to the GPL, but i repeat my goal is not > to make money, i do not need it (right now, tomorrow i don't know) > but it is to have more people in bugzilla playing with bugs in the > hope that a day they become developers or really SME powerusers to > help in the forum or documentation area..... > > Sorry for the bad english, and if i have offended the > sensibilities of people, it is not the purpose of this email. > > Toughts ? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLYGWEACgkQ1CTfJUQAIe5YAwCfRMR4BYGLvLf9FDk/8FZZd1Gj eg4AoIAcfnTfr6pZBdJWMIzj0KiUKqPw =J4HH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail [email protected] Searchable archive at http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
