>>>>> "JDH" == JDH services <[email protected]> writes:

> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Werner Almesberger <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> The idea is to replace the SiLabs C8051F326 microcontroller with an
>> Atmel ATmega32U2 (or ATmega16U2, etc.). The motivation is that AVRs
>> are fairly popular in DIY circles while 8051-based chips tend to be
>> treated with distaste, so the ATmega32U2 should be a more attractive
>> choice and would lower the barrier for others to contribute to the
>> firmware.

I for my part must say that I'd actually prefer 8051 based chips.  It's
much simpler to just install sdcc, compared to the headaches it takes to
get a working gcc cross-toolchain set up.  Yes, performance-wise the
8051 is abysmal.

> Why doing you get Atmels written permission to release a open source
> clone of Atmel's own AVR and AVR32 architectures BEFORE you force
> everyone to write their software for that proprietary architectures.
> So we(Qi hardware projects) don't have to relive the MIPS legal issues
> over again?

I think he might be talking about:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/AVR32#Architecture
"Several U.S. patents are filed for the AVR32 ISA and design platform."

But as long as we don't have tons of AVR-specific assembly code I'd say
it plays no role which controller is actually used.  Nobody forces us to
re-implement the AVR ISA when eventually (if at all) moving to an open
source cpu.

cheers,

David
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