well this is matter of money , time and will, Question for the crocheters: a) The crocheters wants to work on production scheme? Than means be ready to repeat one model one and again and has no creative fun on it. also if success it can means to be ready to recieve orders in the level of hundreds at some time. b) In case afirmative how much time takes to do a case manualy? and ten , and a hundred? c)how much wants the crocheters gain for that time ? $ o €/hour d)crocheters must decide prodution is not fun (I totally agree) then they can take a more design/protoyipe part of the process , then is matter to arrange a amount per unit sold of his desings and let them be creative , also if there is no will like, in Jay7's wife , to do the steps from desing to production (create the designs table) they need assistance in that case Jay7.
Quiestions for machine guys: ok we have an investor :) that's a good thing but how much will cost to create such a machine? let's theroize. I will sugest to use an already done cnc like machine as base, so let's take makerboot Thing o matic or reprap as base. that means about 1300$ -we can use the 3d printer to do the crochet header pieces so plastic head will not be useless. and now the key point. develop a crochet header.... after some google I can say most crochet machies are diferently builded as we intend[1], but maybe investigatin more this kind of chocheter[2] we can find a way to create the cnc head needed. whatever is,work for a mechanical enginier, any one on the room? what will be the cost of desing something like this? let's guess we find one that want to spend some time on this and is a really copyleft hardware fan and it just invoice us a 2000$ (very cheap I know but I supposed is a fan) header for crocheting but we also want to use diferent colors isn't it? how many, and how complicated is to change colors? and also crochet has diferent tipes of dots isn't it? the edges is diferent than the rest at least. ok le'ts imagine we have all that not trivial task done now we have the desing and create a prototipe(due we have a 3d printer, we do our onw pieces and with some motor/electronic we make it work(about 1000$ more maybe?) due at fist we only need one of those now we have so lets suppose we have a working machine now. As cristopher points we need an standarized format to comunicate with the machine, so a)we will have to expand the machine lengauage to include whatever chrochet instructions on there (tipe of dot an color) b) also a more human readable format for the designers, with gui or not, but human readable so we also need a human readable --> machine lenguage parser. (time or money you decide here) so we have about a 5000$ machine that may take about 4-6 months to be build with a full dedicated team of at least one guy, this with a loooot of luck and surelly I have been overoptimistic. let's say we make an arrangment with this guy in charge of building for his work and pay him abot 5000$ for 6 month of work, yeah I know I also supouse is another copyleft fan than will work under market price for such task. 10000$ and 6 months to start producing(we forguet about the machine operator), how many cases will do our crocheters with that amount of money and time? how many cases/hour can do this machine? so many questions we need to anwer before going on whatever direction.... [1]http://www.da-hu.com/detail/269447/269447.html 2011/2/10 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > even better just buy and resell from our crocheters. great. > > On 2/10/11, Yury Bushmelev <[email protected]> wrote: >> 2011/2/10 Christoph Pulster <[email protected]>: >> >> Wow! You are owner of pulster.de! >> I've looked there when got my first Sharp Zaurus ;) >> >>> Hello Crochet-queens, >>> >>> I am impressed about the femal power and deep understanding of >>> OpenSource information sharing and community idea. >>> I think it is a pity, OpenSource is so much on the technical Linux-geek >>> side. This exclude mostly women, which would bring a lot positive >>> influcence in this movement. >>> >>> Speaking as shop owner, I am thinking about replication of the cases. >>> I would invest in a knitting/crochet machine. But what we need is >>> standardized input data and I could offer these nice cases to everyone. >>> (similar to Case CAD, Makerbot 3D Printer etc). >> >> Machine is good, but leave some place for toasty handmade things ;) >> >> -- >> Yury Bushmelev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qi Hardware Discussion List >> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >> > > > -- > Jon Phillips > http://rejon.org/ | http://fabricatorz.com/ > chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon > +1.415.830.3884 (global) | +1-510-499-0894 (sf) > > _______________________________________________ > Qi Hardware Discussion List > Mail to list (members only): [email protected] > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: > http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! _______________________________________________ Qi Hardware Discussion List Mail to list (members only): [email protected] Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion

