On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Chris Troutner
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Have you heard of the FreedomBox? Check it out:

Yep.

Here is what I had to say the first time FreedomBox was mentioned of
the Qi-Hardware list


On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:34 AM, JDH services <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Where's the info on that project? Man, that's an ugly index.php blah
> Ask the ben-wpan people. the Web era internet is extremely fragile by
> design. You aren't going to get a Disruption-Tolerant Network that
> will work transparently with your software that was designed to work
> only on networks that have instantaneous high-data-rate end-to-end
> paths.
>
> The ability to transport, or route, data from a source to a
> destination is a fundamental ability all communication networks must
> have. Delay and disruption-tolerant networks (DTNs), are characterized
> by their lack of connectivity, resulting in a lack of instantaneous
> end-to-end paths. In these challenging environments, popular ad hoc
> routing protocols such as AODV and DSR fail to establish routes. This
> is due to these protocols trying to first establish a complete route
> and then, after the route has been established, forward the actual
> data. However, when instantaneous end-to-end paths are difficult or
> impossible to establish, routing protocols must take to a "store and
> forward" approach, where data is incrementally moved and stored
> throughout the network in hopes that it will eventually reach its
> destination. A common technique used to maximize the probability of a
> message being successfully transferred is to replicate many copies of
> the message in the hope that one will succeed in reaching its
> destination. This is feasible only on networks with large amounts of
> local storage and internode bandwidth relative to the expected
> traffic. In many common problem spaces, this inefficiency is
> outweighed by the increased efficiency and shortened delivery times
> made possible by taking maximum advantage of available unscheduled
> forwarding opportunities. In others, where available storage and
> internode throughput opportunities are more tightly constrained, a
> more discriminate algorithm is required.
>
> Wolfgang Spraul has repeated said that qi doesn't want to become known
> for hosting controversial projects.
> "Nobody likes to have their freedom of speech restricted, or what they
> can hack into their devices. I would not want the Qi servers to become
> known to try to blur the line between free and proprietary software,
> irrespective of the intentions. Fair use? No. Non-commercial? No.
> Links to sites where you can download binaries with questionable or
> disputed ownership issues? No.
>
> Would I spend my own time to make it 'hard' to go underground, or to
> go to the maximum that is allowed in your country? No, definitely
> not."
>
> Name one Police-state that didn't claim to be protecting "public
> morals" and/or "national security" to justify their use of Coercion?
>
>
>> url below too...
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:56 AM, JDH services <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> NEXT GEN internet? WTF!
>>> P2P facebook is not next gen internet.
>>>
>>> I think there is a project for an actual decentralized Next gen
>>> internet to protect dissidents from police-state....
>>> http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/wakan-udtn/
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Eben Moglen, a Columbia law professor, promotes a decentralized next
>>>> gen internet
>>>> that use cheap plg computers he calls "Freedom Box."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/16/nyregion/16about.html
>>>> ---
>>>> Ron K. Jeffries
>>>>
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>>> Sincerely,
>>> Panthera Tigris Altaica
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>>
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> Sincerely,
> Panthera Tigris Altaica
>


Sincerely,
Panthera Tigris Altaica

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