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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Chris Troutner
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually, it has a lot to do with hardware. They have a lot of support
> from the Debian community, but they don't seem to have any focused
> support from the hardware community.

I have seen anything from Freedom box about actually building a
decentralized alliterative to the internet(IP4 for you imbeciles out
there)

We need a Disruption-Tolerant Networking protocol so that the
/Internet/ doesn't get taken out by politicians(US's Internet kill
switch. great wall firewall of China. Australia's black-list) or
thugs(Egypt and Libya) or hardware fault
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/The_Internet_A_Fragile_System_Threatened_By_Natural_Disaster_999.html

People need to listen to Douglas Rushkoff not to
---
Old media, such as terrestrial radio and television, were as
distributed as the thousands of stations and antennae from which
broadcast signals emanated, but all internet traffic must pass through
government and corporate-owned choke points.

That's why President Hosni Mubarak's regime had so little trouble
shutting down his citizens' networks when he wanted to. One phone call
to each of the four internet service providers in his country was all
it took. And while we might like to believe that couldn't happen in
the United States, we should remember that all it took was a call from
Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Connecticut, to Amazon for the corporation to
shut down WikiLeaks' website recently.

Meanwhile, UK's Vodafone complied with Mubarak's orders first to turn
off cell phone use in Egypt, and later to flood cell phone users with
incendiary pro-government messages.

More virtual ink was spilled in the United States about
Vodafone-partner Verizon's version of the iPhone than on Vodafone's
utter complicity in the violence fomented by the commands it promoted
through its networks. Although Vodafone continues to apologize
publicly for its ongoing policy of serving the goon squads of a
dictatorial regime, it has also continued to follow that regime's
orders.

If bottom-up networks are this dependent on the good graces of
top-down authorities for their very functioning, then how bottom-up
are they? While in the United States we may have policies protecting
free speech and open communication, it is these laws -- and not some
feature of our internet -- that prevent the kinds of censorship we are
witnessing in Egypt.

And, as we saw when push came to shove over WikiLeaks in the United
States, how quickly this very same authority can be used to cut off
"enemies of the state" from access and funding."
--- http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/05/rushkoff.egypt.internet/

The right to free speech is the right to say any thing as long as the
authorities don't find it objectionable.

"No restrictions may be placed on the exercise of this right other
than those imposed in conformity with the law and which are necessary
in a democratic society in the interests of national security or
public safety, public order (ordre public), the protection of public
health or morals or the protection of the rights and freedoms of
others."

> "Taken together, these appliances will afford people around the world
> options for communicating, publishing, and collaborating that will
> resist state intervention or disruption." ...as seen recently with
> Egyptian ISPs, but yeah, it's nice, but has little to do with hardware.
>

First we can return to the kind of life and society we had before the
war, go back to our peaceful pursuit of a living, or local social
betterment, or political importance, or psychotherapy as the case may
be. We could probably count with luck on fifteen years, or even
twenty, of peace if we do that, but those occupations would be
completely futile as we would be taken over and enslaved, literally,
and our comfortable social developments thrown into the discard by a
"Master Race" to whom we would appear weak and unrealistic and not fit
to run our own lives. Every present indication is that the next time
any self-styled master race is allowed to prepare and make such an
attempt it will succeed. If our future concern is just the
reestablishment of the pre-war society, slavery is absolutely
inevitable. We were before the war the kind of people who allowed the
Germans, Italians and Japanese to prepare openly for war for years and
to pick their own time and place to attack us. If we go on being that
same kind of people we are indeed not fit to survive. We will have
proven clearly our lack of ability to learn from even the most painful
experience - biologically intolerable condition.

The second possible course is to prepare earnestly for the next war,
recognizing its inevitability, training our children from infancy to
live dangerously, to be able to fight effectively with ever more
efficient, ruthless and terrible weapons. They must be trained to
strike first because there may be no second blow in the wars of the
future. Constant alertness and ruthless killing of all potential
enemies will be the price of survival if we go on as we always have.

The third possible course is to find and take sure steps to prevent
wars in the future. While this possibility seems obviously preferable
it is something that has never yet been undertaken successfully.
Perhaps it can be said that such a course has never been undertaken at
all. Perhaps there is no way of preventing wars; if so we must decide
whether to be slaves or ruthless killers, but before accepting either
of those uncomfortable alternatives let us at least explore possible
ways of preventing war.

Before exploring such possibilities however, we should first consider
war in relation to the human race so that we may be assured that it
would indeed be good for the race to prevent future wars.
...
Can we identify the reasons, why we fight wars or even enough of them
to perceive a pattern? Many of them are easy to list-prejudice,
isolationism, the abil-ity emotionally and uncritically to believe
unreasonable things, excessive desire for material or power, excessive
fear of others, belief in a destiny to control others, vengeance,
ability to avoid seeing and facing unpleasant facts and taking
appropriate action. These are probably the main reasons we find
ourselves involved in wars. They are all well known and recognized
neurotic symptoms. The only normal motive is self defense, to protect
ourselves from aggression, but surely we should be able to see the
aggression coming long before it breaks out in warfare and take
appropriate action to satisfy or suppress it. Even self defense may
involve a neu-rotic reaction when it means defending one's own
excessive material wealth from others who are in great need. This type
of defense is short sighted, ineffective and inevitably leads to more
wars.
...
Let me repeat parts of this "The ability to size things up, make one's
own decisions, is a characteristic of maturity," "A mature person . .
. above all he has the qualities of adaptability and compromise." Can
anyone doubt that enough people reaching maturity in these terms would
not want to start wars themselves and would prevent other people
starting them. It would appear that this quality of maturity, this
growing up successfully, is what is lacking in the human race
generally, in ourselves and in our legislators and governments, which
can only represent the people.

This fact puts the problem squarely up to psychiatry. The necessity to
fight wars, whether as aggressor or as a defender who could have, but
has not, taken steps to prevent war occurring, is as much a
pathological psychiatric symptom as is a pho-bia or the antisocial
behavior of a criminal who has been dominated by a stern and
unreasonable father. They are alike irrational behavior patterns
resulting from un-successful development and failure to reach
emotional maturity. It is evident that this failure is usual in the
whole human race and has been so throughout historical time.

For a cause we must seek some consistent thread running through the
weave of all civilizations we have known and preventing the
development of all or almost all the people to a state of true
maturity. What basic psychological distortion can he found in every
civilization of which we know anything? It must be a force which
dis-courages the ability to see and acknowledge patent facts, which
prevents the ra-tional use of intelligence, which teaches or
encourages the ability to dissociate and to believe contrary to and in
spite of clear evidence, which produces inferiority, guilt and fear,
which makes controlling other people's personal behavior emotionally
necessary, which encourages prejudice and the inability to see,
understand and sympathize with other people's points of view. Is there
any force so potent and so persuasive that it can do all these things
in all civilizations? There is - just one. The only lowest common
denominator of all civilizations and the only psychological force
capable of producing these perversions is morality, the concept of
right and wrong, the poison long ago described and warned against as
"the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil."

In the old Hebrew story God warns the first man and woman to have
nothing to do with good and evil. It is interesting to note that as
long ago as that, "good" is recognized as just as great a menace as
"evil." They are the fruit of the one tree and are different aspects
of the same thing.

We have been very slow to rediscover this truth and to recognize the
unnecessary and artificially imposed inferiority, guilt and fear,
commonly known as sin, under which we have almost all labored and
which produces so much of the social malad-justment and unhappiness in
the world. For many generations we have bowed our necks to the yoke of
the conviction of sin. We have swallowed all manner of poi-sonous
certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers,
our politicians, our priests, our newspapers and others with a vested
interest in control-ling us. "Thou shalt become as gods, knowing good
and evil," good and evil with which to keep children under control,
with which to prevent free thinking, with which to impose local and
familial and national loyalties and with which to blind children to
their glorious intellectual heritage. Misguided by authoritarian
dogma, bound by exclusive faith, stunted by inculcated loyalty, torn
by frantic heresy, bedevilled by insistent schism, drugged by ecstatic
experience, confused by conflicting certainty, bewildered by invented
mystery, and loaded down by the weight of guilt and fear engendered by
its own original promises, the unfortunate human race, deprived by
these incubi of its only defences and its only reasons for striving,
its reasoning power and its natural capacity to enjoy the satisfaction
of its natural urges, strug-gles along under its ghastly self-imposed
burden. The results, the inevitable results, are frustration,
inferiority, neurosis and inability to enjoy living, to reason clearly
or to make a world fit to live in.

The crippling of intelligence by these bandages of belief, in the name
of virtue and security for the soul, is as recognizable as that of the
feet of the Chinese girl who was sacrificed to the local concept of
beauty. The result is, in both cases, not beauty of character or of
feet, but distortion and crippling and loss of natural func-tion.
Intelligence, ability to observe and to reason clearly and to reach
and imple-ment decisions appropriate to the real situation in which he
finds himself, are man's only specific methods of survival. His unique
equipment is entirely in the superior lobes of his brain. His destiny
must lie in the direction indicated by his equipment. Whatever hampers
or distorts man's clear true thinking works against man's mani-fest
destiny and tends to destroy him.

Man's freedom to observe and to think freely is as essential to his
survival as are the specific methods of survival of the other species
to them. Birds must fly, fish must swim, herbivorous animals must eat
grasses and cereals, and man must ob-serve and think freely. That
freedom, present in all children and ,known as inno-cence, has been
destroyed or crippled by local certainties, by gods of local
morali-ties, of local loyalty, of personal salvation, of prejudice and
hate and intolerance-frequently masquerading as love-gods of
everything that would destroy freedom to observe and to think and
would keep each generation under the control of the old people, the
elders, the shamans, and the priests.
...

The Reestablishment of Peacetime Society
The Responsibility of Psychiatr -- G.B. Chisholm M.D.


Sincerely,
Panthera Tigris Altaica

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