When you say qemu ready, does that mean it will work on the Ben
itself too? Would I reflash like for OpenWRT?
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:49:32 -0600, Alan Post wrote:
>From any linux box you should be able to type:
>
> $ ./build mips
>
>From the aboriginal linux root directory and it will create a
>quemu-ready
>image for the mips platform. IIRC, just typing ./build will give
>you a list of platforms it builds for.
>
>-Alan
>
>On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 01:33:30PM -0500, [email protected]
>wrote:
>>The bootstrap linux looks easy, but do I need to do something
>>special to build it for MIPS? I still build it from my external
>>computer, right?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:25:04 -0600, Alan Post wrote:
>>>On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:39:09AM -0500,
[email protected]
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:24:32 -0600, Alan Post wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:31:12PM -0500,
>>[email protected]
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>I am wondering what you all think about how far I, or any of
>>>>us, for
>>>>>>that matter, should go with hacking on the Ben. For one, Qi
>>>>adapted
>>>>>>OpenWRT rather than made a new distribution from (near)
>>>>scratch. Was
>>>>>>this due to time constraints, or something else? Would it be
>>worth
>>>>>>it for someone to learn the MIPS architecture sufficiently
>>well to
>>>>>>make a Ben Tailored OS? Or, since the new Nanonote may or
>>may not
>>>>>>have a similar chip, is it better to stay "on the surface" as
it
>>>>>>were and not get too involved in low-level stuff? Maybe the
>>>>>>experience alone of deep MIPS knowledge will be worth it even
>>>>if we
>>>>>>move to another chip in the future? If one does not go
>>deeper than
>>>>>>the kernel and other basic utils, I suppose "from scratch"
would
>>>>>>mean getting a custom kernel and utils, tuning them, then
>>building
>>>>>>from there, right? I think in general, x86 GNU/Linux is
>>>>assumed to
>>>>>>be as optimized as it could be, but I'm not sure about other
>>>>>>architectures like ARM, MIPS, etc. Since someone has already
>>done
>>>>>>the work, perhaps it is not good to try and re-do it...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you'd like to stay with Linux, but are interested in
>>moving off
>>>>>of OpenWRT, you might find one of these projects interesting
for
>>>>>your effort:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/pikhq/bootstrap-linux
>>>>> http://www.landley.net/aboriginal/
>>>>>
>>>>>Neither of these are "ready-to-go" for the Ben; the second
isn't
>>>>>strictly a distribution. They are both an attempt to build the
>>>>>smallest *self-hosting* linux environment, and in that role
make
>>>>>good bootstrapping tools.
>>>>>
>>>>>They're essentially one step above Linux From Scratch.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Alan
>>>>
>>>>By 'self hosting' do you mean that in a network sense, or in the
>>>>sense that you can actually compile on them? That does sound
>>>>interesting although I wonder if there are any systems that
>>can run
>>>>a full shell for the Ben (not busybox). Thanks for the
interesting
>>>>links.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I mean self-hosting in the sense that one could recompile the
image
>>>for the Ben on the Ben. With the caveat that with 32MB of
memory,
>>>some pieces of this process may well not compile due to memory
>>>constraint. It would certainly require telling gcc that it has a
>>>memory limit. IIRC gcc starts with a pretty generous assumption
>>>of how much memory it has to work with.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what self-hosting in a network sense is. What would
>>>that be?!
>>>
>>>-Alan
>>
>>
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